That scene was meant to show that she is definitely better then average. Random people maybe random. But there were three of them whom she beat within seconds. So, its shown that she can put up a fight and is pretty tough. Unlike someone like me who would struggle and may loose. I repeat she beat them up within seconds without breaking a sweat. She is awesome.
This is fiction. In real life i don't think anyone can be an expert like this. But people do not question Arrow do they? But they question Rey. Isn't it double standard when one fictional story is okay but another is not. I am not saying that Rey is an equal to Kylo in skills. That's not true. But she is definitely good enough to defeat Kylo when:This isnt arrow this is SW and we are using SW events that apparently dont count anymore.
1. He is injured
2. When he is trying to capture her and not kill
3. When she taps into the Force.
Its logically fine.
But its not a hard and fast rule that you have to be told to do so and can't try it by yourself. The broom boy at the end did so himself. Leia did not know Force pull, to pull her to the spaceship in TLJ. Sensing someone with the Force does not require training. Leia could hear Luke at the end of ESB. She had literally no training. How could she do it? I gave a weightlifting analogy. If i am naturally strong i can lift better then someone weak. But to actually lift really heavy weights i need to train. Some things are really easy for Rey. Others have to be learnt.No it's not both Anakin and Luke were told about the force then trained to use it. They didnt just hear tales and start pulling out moves left and right out of nowhere.
And that much was enough? Enough to fight a fully trained and experienced Sith Lord? That training was about learning to trust and use the Force. It was not light saber training. And even if it was, it was 15 minutes or so. That much against a powerful Sith Lord? No it does not sound logical.The very first scene is Luke predicting attacks using a LS, what the hell man?
Light saber training isn't shown at all. But even then how much training was it? Days? Weeks? Months? That much against a fully trained and experienced Sith Lord. Yoda mentioned that Luke is too old for training. Darth Vader has trained for a much longer time. Even if we pretend that prequels don't exist(but they do) that's long time of training and experience. If we take Prequels that's years from childhood. Clone Wars is definitely one place where he had fought already. Vader is among the best, most experienced and had a lot more training then Luke. The (imagined) light saber training at Dagobah is not enough to even stand against Vader. The fight shall go in only one way. Vader disarms(ha!) Luke within seconds.On top of yoda training which we didnt see all of it.
Easy or not, the situations are very similar. Both Rey and Luke were barely trained in light saber wielding when fighting someone with years of training and experience. Both trying to capture. Kylo was injured. (Chewbacca's blaster is powerful enough to throw people across the room). Rey has abilities to put up a fight as shown in the film. Luke was not shown fighting a battle using a staff or lightsaber or anything like that. Luke's training in light saber which even if it did happen off screen in ESB was surely very little in front of Vader. One can see that both are similar.On top of, the thing you keep saying about Kylo, Vader actually fighting to capture. Which actually ended up with Luke without a hand for "fighting to capture" doesnt mean taking it that easy.
That my friend is the thing. Force is by nature really mysterious. Till TLJ we didn't even know something like 'Darkness rises and light to meet it'. That to counter someone really powerful in the dark side, the Force empowers someone else. There was talk of bringing balance to the Force. About Luke Skywalker being the chosen one. Force works in mysterious ways. Jedi may know how to use the Force. But they don't fully understand its nature. Force is somehow 'choosing'. It gave birth to Anakin Skywalker without a father.i dunno, but he had time to do it, which rey does not.
Yes i know the new lore. The issue is how it conflicts with the old lore.
Jedis were not mutants that just pop out powers, Jedis are people that train to become better.
Force is working in different ways here. It may contradict some stuff from the old lore. But there is precedence to it. Anakin Skywalker in Phantom Menace won a race and was flying ships and defeated the Trade Federation or whatever its name was. No kid can be so ridiculously talented to fly a ship into battle and win a war. The Force was with him. You gave the example of mutants. But Jedi and Mutants are similar in some respects. Not everyone is born with the X-gene. Similarly, not everyone is born in connection with the Force. Both need training to 'hone' one's abilities. The new thing is some feats like Force pull or mind control don't require training for the new generation if you want to say so. The Force. Mumbo jumbo. Magic. That's how this is going to be. Its fine that you dislike it. I am fine with it. Let us agree to disagree. (I still say that Rey could manage such feats in TFA because she is somehow really powerful. Most people need more training).
Luke trained in between ESB and ROTJ. A while back a fan posted that Luke had self training. Perhaps with the help of Obi Wan. Rey is not fully trained yet. She did Force pull and mind control and resisting Kylo's mind control without training in TFA. In TLJ she did lift some rocks after Luke's training. She is still far from being a Jedi. Yoda said she has everything she needs. (Knowing that she has those Jedi books). Luke is going to show up. He said to Kylo before disappearing "See you around kid." I am quite sure there would be a time gap in the next episode. By that time there might be no more questions. Hopefully.