I hope they consolidate the line down to one book. I liked Soule's run across both Inhuman and Uncanny Inhumans I have really enjoyed Ewing's Royals. They aren't bad characters and it'd be nice if they could continue in some form.
I think they have already started to stop the push after the show was such a huge failure.
The only thing that it proves is that when the Inhumans met humans, they feared them and wanted to exploit them. Just because they didn’t have the same villains and stories as the X-Men doesn’t mean they didn’t face any discrimination before. If you read pre-Infinity Inhumans books, you’ll see how the humans and Kree treated them.
As for “at the expense of the X-Men,” Disney bought Marvel in 2009. “E for Extinction” (2001) and “House of M” (2005) happened before any MCU film was made, and those events were even more devastating to the mutants. They’ve always been written as getting the shortest end of the stick. As stupid as the Terrigen cloud storyline was, it kinda fell in line to what would happen to mutants, and at the end of the day, they never exterminated mutants 100%.
Just because they are pushing a couple of characters, doesn’t mean that it's at the expense of anyone. They were exploring new territory and new characters, etc. If they failed (which some did), at least they gave new characters a shot. There’s space for everyone.
I think that after being hidden in limbo because of a deadly gas in the air, they needed a breather. Besides, Nuhumans can fit that role too whether some people like it or not. And more than one group of people can face persecution.
The X-Men were involved in Secret Empire nonetheless.
It’s more that it goes to show that they never had any intention (in spending money or time) in making them a big deal like Ant-Man and the Guardians of the Galaxy. They weren't going to kill off the X-Men in comics just to make one crappy network tv show that airs on Friday nights and sell 3 comics. It make zero sense. That's why it never happened. It was never their intention.
They weren’t pushing them to replace the X-Men. They were pushing all other Marvel property, and downplaying the X-Men in general. People just created with conflict to put the blame on fictional characters, and the writers took advantage of this quarrel/inner-conflict between fans by writing a stupid comic book event.
I hope they do the Inhumans right and not make them as Diet X-Men. The Black Bolt comic book is one of my favourite comic books right now. Since Disney now owns Fox does that means it owns FX, FXX because if they do they could add some X-Men spin-off shows (which sets in the MCU or...Marvel Cinematic Multiverse? If X-Men sets in an alternate universe).
Heh...aren't people always complaining about opression geared only toward mutants not making sense ?
BUT...that time other communities are also slighted in-universe, all of a sudden it's a covert ploy to destroy the X-men brand...?
Where is the logic here...?
I guess my point is, what do you guys want exactly ? Do you even know ?
Marvel is a *shared* universe.
Some people ought to learn to deal with other franchises existing on their own - that time the X-verse was the be all end all is long gone...
It's not gonna happen ever again, EVER...and that's OK.
Better yet, that's HEALTHY. No one wants Marvel to become like DC with its bat-family model, no offense to DC fans...
"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."
No, it proves that Marvel wanted characters that they could use to replace the X-Men. E for Extinction and House of M were at least X-Men-centric events. The mutants were at least directly involved in their fate and we examined what the new status quo meant for them. For the past several years up until Resurrexion, the X-Men have basically had a minimal role in the Marvel U.
Are you seriously saying that the fact that Marvel had an editorial edict prohibiting any new mutant characters while at the same time publishing a series called the Uncanny Inhumans and introducing a bunch of new characters as Inhumans who are basically in the same situation that new mutants find themselves in is not at least some evidence that they were attempting to replace Mutants in their universe?
And yes, there is space for everyone, but the Inhumans should be the Inhumans and not X-Men Lite.
No, not really. By that logic, Jane should sit out all events because she’s dying of cancer and the war of the realms happening in her solo. And the point is not that no other groups can face persecution in the Marvel U, but that Marvel wanted to push the Inhumans as THE only group in that role to replace the mutants.I think that after being hidden in limbo because of a deadly gas in the air, they needed a breather. Besides, Nuhumans can fit that role too whether some people like it or not. And more than one group of people can face persecution.
Not really. Especially if you read the event book itself.The X-Men were involved in Secret Empire nonetheless.
Their original plans were to make an Inhumans movie. It only became a TV show later on. And yes, they would have cancelled he X-men if it would have made it easier for them to push the Inhumans as a part of the MCU, especially if it was a movie. I have no doubt.It’s more that it goes to show that they never had any intention (in spending money or time) in making them a big deal like Ant-Man and the Guardians of the Galaxy. They weren't going to kill off the X-Men in comics just to make one crappy network tv show that airs on Friday nights and sell 3 comics. It make zero sense. That's why it never happened. It was never their intention.
They weren’t pushing them to replace the X-Men. They were pushing all other Marvel property, and downplaying the X-Men in general. People just created with conflict to put the blame on fictional characters, and the writers took advantage of this quarrel/inner-conflict between fans by writing a stupid comic book event.
And yes, they were downplaying the X-Men. And that of course means that they had to find some way to fill that void, since the X-Men are such an important part of the MU. And all evidence points to them finding that in the Inhumans.
It only didn’t happen because of the fans’ reactions to the thought of replacing the X-Men and the reactions to the TV show.
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Claremont is literally paid a monthly wage not to come into the office and not to write for the competition.
The idea he's "in the know" is just funny.
It's also funny that you consider when he said this, which was when Bendis had the X-Men and there were new mutants in that book left right and centre.
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Bendis started his Uncanny run in 2013. The "no new mutants" edict apparently came down in 2014. Aside from the few new mutants who appear at the very beginning of Bendis's Uncanny run, I cant think of other examples of new mutants created in the last few years.
These are interesting times. Disney got the movie rights for FF/X-men. Bendis is gone. Axel is gone. SJW Marvel is taking a beating. Can't wait to see what happens.