Dragonball M: A DBZ RPG Sign-Up and Discussion Thread.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Next time, on Dragonball M!

The rogue Crane challenges the Demon!
Ishtar vs Ochazuke: Battle in pursuit of The Truth!

I see your music submission and call.

[grampagen]

Just for our mutual edification, who's going where during the next campaign split? Might as well compile this in one place

Team Kumite

Sarada
Totoma
Charco
Midori
Ochazuke
Jack
Karine
Zaofan
Chuan

Team Strike Force

Chou
Shiro
Adam
Sasheem
Koorimaru

Team Watchdog/Undecided

Kai
Ishtar
Meagan
Asha'Rah

[Monstrous Bird of Qin, Ou Ki]

...man, Ishtar will be disappointed (again) in Totoma if the subject of 'truth' ever comes up.

Because transcendent truths mean nothing to him, and never will.

Personal truths are another matter, but I doubt Ishtar would be impressed with whatever personal truths Totoma might have.

[Monstrous Bird of Qin, Ou Ki]

The U15 Saiyans pretty much don't know any better. They're the most powerful (probably not) race in the universe, so there's no one to tell them they're wrong. Everyone thinks the same way, acts the same way, believes the same things. So in that environment, the same wrong-headed ideas are bouncing around in a vacuum. And the only guy who knows they're on the wrong course , one headed for destruction, isn't saying anything because he knows no one will listen.

By the way, I should write up a bio for King Mato, the strongest of them all!

Hm... who is that one guy, if I may ask?

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

...man, Ishtar will be disappointed (again) in Totoma if the subject of 'truth' ever comes up.

Because transcendent truths mean nothing to him, and never will.

Personal truths are another matter, but I doubt Ishtar would be impressed with whatever personal truths Totoma might have.

Eh, Ishtar isn't a zealot.

Otherwise she would have stuck with Zurvan.

So I mean you're right she's not going to be impressed, but personal truths are as important to understanding yourself as anything else Ishtar believes in so she'd straight up support Totoma's endeavors.

[KingofPie]

Just for our mutual edification, who's going where during the next campaign split? Might as well compile this in one place

Team Kumite

Sarada
Totoma
Charco
Midori
Ochazuke

Team Strike Force

Chou
Shiro
Adam

Team Watchdog

Kai

Sasheem's going with the Strike Force.

[Monstrous Bird of Qin, Ou Ki]

Eh, Ishtar isn't a zealot.

Otherwise she would have stuck with Zurvan.

So I mean you're right she's not going to be impressed, but personal truths are as important to understanding yourself as anything else Ishtar believes in so she'd straight up support Totoma's endeavors.

TBH, his 'personal truths' would be in state of flux right now, since he's still in a transitional period of his life. With how he is now, he could either be nudged towards heroism or villainy.

Ishtar's short mental lecture, Karine voicing similar thoughts, and Sarada's brief expression of vulner--*thwack*--allowing the filthy mutt to have the honor of knowing her exalted inner thoughts... pushed him just a bit towards the former.

...

He still hates purebreds for the most part, though.

[KamenRaida]

Just for our mutual edification, who's going where during the next campaign split? Might as well compile this in one place

Team Kumite

Sarada
Totoma
Charco
Midori
Ochazuke

Team Strike Force

Chou
Shiro
Adam
Koorimaru

Team Watchdog

Kai

Koori’s with the Strike Force

[The Dog]

The U15 Saiyans pretty much don't know any better. They're the most powerful (probably not) race in the universe, so there's no one to tell them they're wrong. Everyone thinks the same way, acts the same way, believes the same things. So in that environment, the same wrong-headed ideas are bouncing around in a vacuum. And the only guy who knows they're on the wrong course , one headed for destruction, isn't saying anything because he knows no one will listen.

By the way, I should write up a bio for King Mato, the strongest of them all!

"doesn't know any better" doesn't really justify or excuse the fact they're genocidal, slave-owning monsters.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

TBH, his 'personal truths' would be in state of flux right now, since he's still in a transitional period of his life. With how he is now, he could either be nudged towards heroism or villainy.

Ishtar's short mental lecture, Karine voicing similar thoughts, and Sarada's brief expression of vulner--*thwack*--allowing the filthy mutt to have the honor of knowing her exalted inner thoughts... pushed him just a bit towards the former.

...

He still hates purebreds for the most part, though.

Well, if Ishtar continues to be a voice needling in his ear, she'll likely drive him towards something approaching a true neutral. There's times for heroics, and times for villainy. It's just a matter of when to apply it and why.

Just for our mutual edification, who's going where during the next campaign split? Might as well compile this in one place

Team Kumite

Sarada
Totoma
Charco
Midori
Ochazuke

Team Strike Force

Chou
Shiro
Adam

Team Watchdog

Kai

Ishtar is still undecided.

"doesn't know any better" doesn't really justify or excuse the fact they're genocidal, slave-owning monsters.

Can you blame a dog bred to fight, for fighting everything and anything ? No. You blame the owner. Perhaps the Saiyan's not knowing any better is less to do with who they innately are, and more to do with how they've been conditioned to be.

Beyond that- it's a rather large plot point in a personal narrative. Wonder if that has any import on the character's development...

[KamenRaida]

"doesn't know any better" doesn't really justify or excuse the fact they're genocidal, slave-owning monsters.

And from a narrative standpoint, that’s what makes Sarada interesting.

A flawed individual growing out of her flaws is a far more compelling story than an already decent character only finding further justification for what they already believe.

All in all, I think Sarada is already proving to be the most dynamic character in the story as she has acknowledged the truth of some of Totoma’s ideas which is a huge 180 from where she was.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

And from a narrative standpoint, that’s what makes Sarada interesting.

A flawed individual growing out of her flaws is a far more compelling story than an already decent character only finding further justification for what they already believe.

All in all, I think Sarada is already proving to be the most dynamic character in the story as she has acknowledged the truth of some of Totoma’s ideas which is a huge 180 from where she was.

Well, she's also already made it most of a morning without hitting or throwing something.

Like she's crazy progressive atm

[Sub-Zero MKA]

"doesn't know any better" doesn't really justify or excuse the fact they're genocidal, slave-owning monsters.

It wasn't meant to justify it. It was just a way of saying they can change if presented with alternative stimuli and a reason to change.

You're not going to get any arguments from anyone OOC, least of all me, that they aren't complete monsters. That's how I made them and that's how I plan on playing them when some of then show up. Vocado is a horrible place to live for everyone, Saiyan or otherwise. Me saying they don't know any better is me saying that if they do learn better, that will present them with an opportunity to turn around. Whether they do or not will depend on how the game goes.

[Tami]

Meagan is undecided.

[Sub-Zero MKA]

And from a narrative standpoint, that’s what makes Sarada interesting.

A flawed individual growing out of her flaws is a far more compelling story than an already decent character only finding further justification for what they already believe.

All in all, I think Sarada is already proving to be the most dynamic character in the story as she has acknowledged the truth of some of Totoma’s ideas which is a huge 180 from where she was.

Well, she's also already made it most of a morning without hitting or throwing something.

Like she's crazy progressive atm

All of this. That's why I made her as big an ******* as constructive PbP rping would allow, because there's greater opportunity for not just development, but noticeable development.