Kylo would have been killed by one of Snoke's underlings in the throne room if Rey hadn't tossed him her lightsaber.
It's bad enough that this dude lost his first fight but now he needs to be saved from underlings?
Kylo would have been killed by one of Snoke's underlings in the throne room if Rey hadn't tossed him her lightsaber.
It's bad enough that this dude lost his first fight but now he needs to be saved from underlings?
He wiped out most of those guys on his own, taking on like three at once, while Rey struggled with one of them.
That the guards actually proved to be a match to him, numerical advantage aside, says more about strong they are than Kylo Ren being weak.
But hey, if you want to ignore the details of every single Kylo Ren fight ever you do that.
I was too busy being impressed by the choreography of the scene to care
seriously it's easily my favorite lightsaber scene to date
Those guys obviously weren't just common goons. And didn't he end up taking most of them down by himself anyway?
I hope not, if for no other reason than the character concept still has merit and no such connection was really hinted at in this film.
The fight scene is boss, though, especially since the film shows that the guards have lightsaber-resistant armor to at least some extent. Its a great moment in the film. My biggest tissue is that while I like Snoke dying, I felt the character still feels too derivative of Palpatine, without enough distinction. I still think they should have had Rey or Kylo rip out the information that Snoke was using his powers to tinker with Ben and Luke's mind back when they had their fight, and thus show Kylo making the deduction that Snoke saw him as a "cur" similar to Hux, a tool to be used. It would have been a nice distinction between Snoke and Palpatine by making Snoke a greater risk taker and emphasized a more finesse nature to his manipulation.
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Didn't Kylo return to "complete his training"? Didn't Rey tell Luke that Kylo was growing stronger? I could see Rey growing stronger in the force but didn't see anything that indicated that Kylo was getting stronger. As for your "every single Kylo Ren fight ever"comment? We don't have that many to go on. We all know that good is going to win, but evil at least has to give the impression that it could put up a fight. This is the second movie in a trilogy and Kylo Ren is not earning his keep.
He's doing just fine and is more than earning his keep.
Here's a bunch of things we've seen him do throughout two movies.
- Show off force tricks we've never seen before in the movie (holding a blaster shot stuck in mid air)
- He's got enough fine control to sneakily move Rey's light saber into position and turn it on for a killing blow while deceiving a powerful and perceptive force master
- He's got massive endurance, which we can see from him beating Finn and holding his own against Rey despite having a large bleeding blaster wound in his guy after being shot by a blaster that not kills strom troopers but sends them flying through the air.
- He sliced up multiple skilled opponents before one of them gets him in a bad position and he needs bit of help.
- He just straight up took over the First Order and is so damn powerful nobody really dared challenge him on it.
So yeah, fucking solid all around.
I actually thought this one was a huge redemption of his character. Hell im now rooting for him.
Are you seriously going to do this? Full room of guys who are meant to protect the figurehead of the entire command. They are not going to have any old schmuck in that armor. They're even lightsaber resistant, Snoke isn't going to just let Kylo Ren kill him, there needs to be some precautions. Or are you also forgetting Rey needed help in that battle to in order to just crap on a character you don't like?
And I know it's later on in this thread but what do you mean by "earning his keep"? Like everyone in this franchise has this benchmark for success.
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I'm sorry I can't take him seriously as a threat. He still can't beat Rey sooooo what's the threat again?
hey if he was able to defeat Finn who is a top 10 warrior in the Star Wars Universe he is a threat
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