Has this ever been confronted in a storyline in either books? They got naturally superior powers too. Why are they off the hook?
Has this ever been confronted in a storyline in either books? They got naturally superior powers too. Why are they off the hook?
I don’t think the FF have naturally “superior” powers than the Mutants, but not sure if this was stated.
I think the general consensus is that in-universe its easier to accept a freak 1 in a billion accident like the Fantastic 4, Spiderman, drinking a super soldier serum, etc... than accepting that people like the Scarlet Witch or Charles Xavier can just naturally pop out of the womb with God level potential. There's no worry about more Fantastic 4 freak occurrences... Otoh anybody can be born a mutant and accidentally level an entire street or poison a school or something when their powers pop out through puberty, stress, or some random act. And that's only the accidental occurrences. Imagine trying to regulate people like Shaw & Wynegarde that actually intend to do bad stuff, or if Charles X, Iceman, etc... were actually irresponsible themselves. Can't really regulate something that occurs naturally.
Last edited by ChibaMariners; 12-18-2017 at 11:23 PM.
It always baffles me that it's so hard for people to understand what for me feels so obvious.
Well because
1. They didn't get there powers "naturally"
2. because they're science type heroes from the start from a time when the space race,
and the coldwar between The u.s. and evil communist forces were slowly vying for control in world politics. They were "symbols of American ingenuity" and would stand as tribute to our technological superiority. More importantly they (and I'm speculating here) "IN WORLD" are only 4 people.
3. They aren't claiming to be Homo-superior, they are still considered "us" there's no worry they are looking for a cultural shift. They are a part of our American culture, and all they had techwise only added to us, and in the game of species they're also a part of "Human Culture".
4. Finally... its Like this. . . they have tech they can share. Mutants are too numerous and too "other" to assure they add to the cultural diaspora, but they represent something horrible they represent things like "birthright" and "chosen" and they dismantle the idea that humans or the people you see are inherently essentially "equal". Overwhelmingly... we've done away with the "divine right" idea and embrace the idea that humans are largely equal... in the face of a plague or a hurricane or hell lions and tigers and bears.
All of our achievement and ideas get called into question when someone can just wake up one day as a teenager and decide they are Magneto, or Proteus, or Apocalypse.
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My priority is enjoying and supporting stories of timeless heroism and conflict.
Everything else is irrelevant.
Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, and some scenes in the first Civil War confronted this issue.
That is part of the X-Men metaphor really. Simple stuff, but surprising how many people still stupid enough that are unable to recognize the connection. Kind of like confronting straight people how being gay is a choice and a lifestyle and since it's a choice, then being straight is also just an option.
Simple stuff, but people likes to turn a blind eye on it.
Stupid people... can't grasp that the view they hold so near and dear isn't inherently true, so they convince themselves, and frame the question incorrectly for everyone else. None-the-less the fantastic 4 is four people and not people claiming that "we are the new way" anytime people start representing themselves as "We are the enlightened new way" one way or another... genocide gets inevitable.
My priority is enjoying and supporting stories of timeless heroism and conflict.
Everything else is irrelevant.
Cannot understand anything from your first statement. Elaborate more.
But on the second statement, another perfect example. Magneto and a few villains crusaded for the eradication of humans - and the rest of the mutants that just wanted to live in peace are then dragged into the conflict. So it's basically a RACE vs. a few heroes you can count with your fingers that usually have the same outlook. Hmmm...come to think about it, this has a loose similarity to Muslims/Islam vs. any other religion (which has their own spectrum of reception).
Last edited by sugarfree; 12-19-2017 at 02:26 AM.
Incidentally there is an FF tie in to the end of Fall of the Mutants where they attend a parade in X-Factor's honor.
One is based on normal humans who were altered based on science. One is a race of humans that is argued to be the next step in evolution. Which kind of is like training your own replacement for your job.
It's understandable why humanity would fear mutants and not other heroes. People fear what they don't understand and the mutants don't have origins they simply are and also add to that the fear mutants are the next step in evolution and might end up replacing humans there's comfort in our species continuing when we're going but that could end with mutants.
I think the better question has always been with mutants serving in the Avengers and Franklin Richards being a mutant why don't other heroes do more to help with the cause for mutant equality and defend the X-Men good name?
Because X-writers say so.
Reason why it's better to consider the X-verse to be its own pocket realm, at times it's jarring how much it's not in tune with the rest of the Marvel Universe.
"The means are as important as the end - we have to do this right or not at all.
Anything less negates every belief we've ever had, every sacrifice we've ever made."
"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
"No justice, no peace."