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    Default What do you want to see happen to Jason?

    I mean I don't hate the character but I feel like maybe they could have used him better or at least did something better. Like through magical means, Hippoltya has kept connected with him. I think it's wrong for a woman who would stand against the Gods to just leave her son and not tell Diana

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    Honestly - retconned out of continuity during DC's next "big event" when every character has their mythology rewritten (except for Batman) to keep things "fresh and interesting" (and "dark and gritty").

    I'm all for a Wonder Warrior / Wondrous Man / Wonder Boy / Wonder Whatever joining Diana's group of allies - IN TIME. But, not at the expense of introducing, establishing and maintaining a relationship between Diana and her traditional legacy characters of Donna and Cassie. And not before establishing and using a traditional supporting cast for Diana, including Steve Trevor and Etta Candy (and ideally others like Hippolyta, Ferdinand, Artemis, etc).

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    Killed out or retconned out of existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakuyamons View Post
    Killed out or retconned out of existence.
    The bolded part is my preference and will continue to be my hope.

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    Honestly - retconned out of continuity during DC's next "big event" . <== Yes to that. The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiMizuno View Post
    I mean I don't hate the character but I feel like maybe they could have used him better or at least did something better. Like through magical means, Hippoltya has kept connected with him. I think it's wrong for a woman who would stand against the Gods to just leave her son and not tell Diana
    I would like to see him swept away, along with the Zeus origin and Diana's years of pointless "fake memories" of the Azzarello Run (if you're going to remove it from continuity, why have it hang around as "fake memory" baggage?), by some chronowave at the end of The Doomsday Clock.

    Diana does not need a long-lost twin brother. (They gave Barry Allen one of those once. As far as I know, he's been wiped from continuity as well. And Barry didn't even spend years having "fake memories" of that storyline once it was invalidated!)

    While they're at it, they can get rid of the whole "the Amazons and Themyscira were created to keep Ares imprisoned, and Diana hasn't been able to go back there for the entirety of her superhero career, although she believed she could" thing as well.

    Some of the stories about Diana that have been done since the start of Flashpoint (followed by The New 52, then Rebirth) have been interesting in an Elseworlds kind of way, but I can't think of a single one that I consider a healthy contribution to Wonder Woman as an ongoing character with her own supporting cast and mythos. And I agree with Agent 86 that the whole Team Zeus stuff has come at the expense of supporting characters that I'm much more interested and invested in, and that seem to get poorly treated or ignored with every reboot/retcon/rebranding.

    But that's just me. (And maybe Agent 86.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sakuyamons View Post
    Killed out or retconned out of existence.
    Honestly, dropped and never picked up again. Like when Beast Boy went from red to green and no one said anything and still hasn't.

    An argument can be made for Heracles or Perseus to be brought into the franchise as a foil against Diana's Amazon ideology, Son of Vulcan as a generational hero country cousin, a younger male that sees Diana as a mentor... hell ANY hero that sees Diana as a mentor, but I fail to understand Jason's worth. His character origin weakens the already weak Themysciran timeline, in addition to several character assassinations. He's poison in the water.

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    Ditto the stance of CRaymond, Bifrost, Sakuymons, and Agent86 for me.

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    Dead or retconned out of existence along with Grail.

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    Retconned in, so retconned out. As soon as possible. Blame Dr. Manhattan or dark matter or whatever if it makes them feel better.

    Or, as Dr. Seuss might say, he can go by foot, he can go by cow, I don't care, just please go now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Dead or retconned out of existence along with Grail.
    Or maybe beaten to death by Grail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Bifrost View Post
    I would like to see him swept away, along with the Zeus origin and Diana's years of pointless "fake memories" of the Azzarello Run (if you're going to remove it from continuity, why have it hang around as "fake memory" baggage?), by some chronowave at the end of The Doomsday Clock.

    Diana does not need a long-lost twin brother. (They gave Barry Allen one of those once. As far as I know, he's been wiped from continuity as well. And Barry didn't even spend years having "fake memories" of that storyline once it was invalidated!)

    While they're at it, they can get rid of the whole "the Amazons and Themyscira were created to keep Ares imprisoned, and Diana hasn't been able to go back there for the entirety of her superhero career, although she believed she could" thing as well.

    Some of the stories about Diana that have been done since the start of Flashpoint (followed by The New 52, then Rebirth) have been interesting in an Elseworlds kind of way, but I can't think of a single one that I consider a healthy contribution to Wonder Woman as an ongoing character with her own supporting cast and mythos. And I agree with Agent 86 that the whole Team Zeus stuff has come at the expense of supporting characters that I'm much more interested and invested in, and that seem to get poorly treated or ignored with every reboot/retcon/rebranding.

    But that's just me. (And maybe Agent 86.)
    Yes to just about everything you said especially the bolded. This frustrates me to no end.

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    Jason seems to be designed like his namesake from the bat verse and is just one step away from forming his own dark trinity with bats Tim and Strange Visitor that is if SV survives.

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    He should be Cassie's father.

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    Kill him and Grail off and never speak of them again.

    The only good thing about this storyline is that it isn't negatively impacting anything else beyond Diana not having a starring role in her own damn book. The Rebirth setup for her supporting cast and history is still in place, and no characters have yet been ruined. The franchise can bounce back from what we've seen so far VERY easily, so hopefully all this crap will wrap up before it's too late.

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