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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Snyder is the guy who looks at great comics like Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns and only sees violence and darkness. And when he makes movies out of them that is all he brings to the screen, multiplied. He's basically an edgelord. He's the guy that looks at a Liefeld Cable comic and thinks, you know what, those guns could be bigger.
    You know, edgelord is starting to become one of those words that gets tossed about so much that it loses all meaning.

    As for the OP, Diana still could have been active as WW without trying to better humanity.

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    I honestly don't think Snyder had thought much about his plans for Wonder Woman. Going off of interviews and how she was written in BvS I think she was more of an after thought for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    I honestly don't think Snyder had thought much about his plans for Wonder Woman. Going off of interviews and how she was written in BvS I think she was more of an after thought for him.
    What he had shown us:

    She abandoned humanity
    She fought WWI 100 years ago.

    Both indicates a dark story like the Superman who was feared and hated by many and a middle aged irrational Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross61 View Post
    Do you have of the last sentence that the ending was changed? A source?
    https://www.cbr.com/wonder-woman-movie-retcon/

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    So back to the topic, what was the original plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpokeking View Post
    So back to the topic, what was the original plan?
    Not much of a difference, really. It was more about their more optimistic tone necessitating that final voice over in Wonder Woman making it clear that she would never give up on humanity. Presumably, the original version would have seen her remain in Man's World, helping out in secret, but her initial naive faith in humanity's goodness was now more realistic thanks to her experiences with Steve.

    Again, not a huge change, but a necessary one to make, which required Justice League to reconcile the two different notions of her from BvS and WW.

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    "You're a beacon to the world. And yet, I'd never heard of you until Luthor drew you out of hiding with a picture of your dead boyfriend." ~ Bruce Wayne, "Justice League"


    If Batman has never heard of you, that means you walked away & were in hiding. Gadot can say whatever she wants in interviews, but on-screen nothing has been retconned yet. WW 2 may change that, but so far the BvS ending is still the canon one.
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    Wonder Woman had been in production hell for generations, but the most recent production originally was slated to have Michelle MacLaren as director. She walked away over creative differences and we know that the script was revised by a few different people. I imagine the script was close to its final form when Snyder filmed BVS since they shot the photograph scene for WONDER WOMAN to fit in with BVS (and Snyder was on set for that).

    But I think the final edit of WONDER WOMAN downplays her leaving humanity. You could argue that a hundred years ago she did walk away from humanity--in the scene where she tells Steve Trevor off--immediatlely after that she battles Ares and gets her faith back. But for those few minutes of screen time she had walked away from humanity and that was a hundred years ago.

    In JUSTICE LEAGUE, Batman doesn't seem to have watched the WONDER WOMAN movie, even though Diana emailed him the whole story, as Bruce holds it against her that she walked away from humanity--and in his version of the story, she never got back to helping mankind until their battle with Doomsday. So Snyder seems to have stuck with the original idea from BVS that was probably in an earlier draft of WW. And Joss Whedon never changed that in the final cut--which is something you'd think he would have changed to make JL more cheery.

    However, from what Gal Gadot has said in interviews and from what we know about Patty Jenkins plans for the next movie--that idea is either going to be dropped or downplayed.

    Anyway, I think future DC movies as a whole are going to do a soft reboot on any continuity from the Snyder movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark_Kent View Post
    "You're a beacon to the world. And yet, I'd never heard of you until Luthor drew you out of hiding with a picture of your dead boyfriend." ~ Bruce Wayne, "Justice League"


    If Batman has never heard of you, that means you walked away & were in hiding. Gadot can say whatever she wants in interviews, but on-screen nothing has been retconned yet. WW 2 may change that, but so far the BvS ending is still the canon one.
    Well... technically the ending of Wonder Woman changed it and then Justice League changed it back?
    And Wonder Woman 2 is going to change it back again, and there won't be any Justice League 2, so that'll be that.

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