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    Default Spider-Men II Ending (Major Spoilers)

    Today's Spider-Men II #5 had a surprise at the end. Earth-1610 is back! The new Ultimates lineup is Peter Parker, Jessica Drew, Giant-Man, Human Torch, Thor, Captain America, Hulk, and Ironheart (yup, Bendis just introduced Ultimate Riri Williams).
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    Which means the Ultimates Ewing used in Ultimates2's final two issues can't be the originals. Maker must've made clones.
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    Damn. Ninja'd.

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    Tony, probably same as what happened in 616. He got beaten in battle (could've been against a villain though - it couldn't be Carol as her Ultimate version doesn't have powers), wound up in a coma.

    Ewing's Ultimates are easily explained as recreations, clones. It would explain why Hank and Janet remember being killed.

    Ultimate End won't be remembered, no. Those were duplicates, not the real Earth 616 and 1610 heroes.

    And no, this doesn't mean the Ultimate line will be back or that there'll be any crossovers. Especially with Bendis gone.

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    Isn't this too much of a spoiler to put in a thread's title?

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    Well, I for one hope that all of the Ultimate characters now in 616 go back.
    Good Marvel characters- Bring Them Back!!!

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    I seriously dont get the point of this? Its becoming more and more like DC with all these clone characters.

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    Since my thread is obsolete, lemme bring over my questions to this one:

    Few questions, though:

    (1) What happened to Tony Stark from 1610?
    (2) What will happen to the other Ultimates that are helping hunt down Maker?



    (3) Do they remember Ultimate End?
    (4) Will we ever get a proper 616/1610 crossover? Probably not.

    Quote Originally Posted by KidStranglehold View Post
    I seriously dont get the point of this? Its becoming more and more like DC with all these clone characters.
    ????

    The Ultimate Universe has existed for almost two decades

    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    Well, I for one hope that all of the Ultimate characters now in 616 go back.
    Well Miles definitely isn't anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ţh жţяą-๏яďɨɲąя Tycon View Post
    Since my thread is obsolete, lemme bring over my questions to this one:

    Few questions, though:

    (1) What happened to Tony Stark from 1610?
    (2) What will happen to the other Ultimates that are helping hunt down Maker?



    (3) Do they remember Ultimate End?
    (4) Will we ever get a proper 616/1610 crossover? Probably not.



    ????

    The Ultimate Universe has existed for almost two decades



    Well Miles definitely isn't anytime soon.
    What happened to Ultimate Tony Stark. Bendis is writing the end of Invincible Iron Man too, so maybe the guy in the armour who just fell over is Ultimate Stark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    Isn't this too much of a spoiler to put in a thread's title?
    Not saying what it was would've made people think it was in the wrong section, since this happened in a Spidey book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Not saying what it was would've made people think it was in the wrong section, since this happened in a Spidey book.
    Could always mention in the title it's bigger than just Spidey, but oh well.

    Quote Originally Posted by ţh€ €жţяą-๏яďɨɲąя Tycon View Post
    (2) What will happen to the other Ultimates that are helping hunt down Maker?
    I'm also wondering what are the Makers gonna do if/when they learn that Ultimate is back, are we gonna see an army of Makers invading Ultimate? Lol

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    On one side I don't mind because Hickman already established that the Richards were restoring realities. On the other hand this brings up more questions and feels like an insult to all the 1610 refugee stories we've had so far.

    Also no one remembers the Secret Wars.

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    It would be nice to see something come of this, but I doubt anything will. Bendis is just leaving the door open to anyone who wants to do something with the UU, and signing off his biggest story (USM).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudman View Post
    It would be nice to see something come of this, but I doubt anything will. Bendis is just leaving the door open to anyone who wants to do something with the UU, and signing off his biggest story (USM).
    Yes, I think this was just Bendis giving a happy ending to the UU. Sure, someone could run with this but they don't have to. Rather than being a set-up to something else, I think it's just a nice nod to these characters and this universe, letting fans know that they're still out there having adventures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Today's Spider-Men II #5 had a surprise at the end. Earth-1610 is back! The new Ultimates lineup is Peter Parker, Jessica Drew, Giant-Man, Human Torch, Thor, Captain America, Hulk, and Ironheart (yup, Bendis just introduced Ultimate Riri Williams).

    Which means the Ultimates Ewing used in Ultimates2's final two issues can't be the originals. Maker must've made clones.
    Okay, so is the the Spider-Man on the Ultimates team the Ultimate Peter Parker or the 616 one? Also, what does the return of Ultimate mean? Will there be new comics set there or is it just establishing that it still exists and leaving it at that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Okay, so is the the Spider-Man on the Ultimates team the Ultimate Peter Parker or the 616 one? Also, what does the return of Ultimate mean? Will there be new comics set there or is it just establishing that it still exists and leaving it at that?
    It's the Ultimate Parker (lol) since he knows Kong.

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