X-cited About the Return of X (Spoilers)

[yogaflame]

After X developed a love crush in the past and send X-Men 1.5 to die and then deleted their very existence from everybody, X lost all credits with me. Him finally helping Rogue was a little to late as well. He let her drown for years before doing something. After all these things, no more credits for X.

I did not miss him a bit. I do not applaud his return. Only good thing is because his return another disliked X-Man went away.

Still a net gain.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Doesn't excuse this ongoing cultural appropriation. The meta-reasons should override any in-universe rationalizations at this point.

Again I don't remember Marvel trying to pass her off fully as Asian, they don't list her as one of their Asian characters and admit openly that she's a British person in a different body than the one that she was born in, she didn't change her name, she doesn't live in Japan or anything and doesn't try to be what she's not, she still goes home to England...

[DragonsChi]

Most unnecessary ressurection of the year. I seriously don't see the point or what he can even bring to the table at this stage.

Still think Wolverine/Logan has Chuck beat on that one. I mean there are 6 little clones of him running around the MU.

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Well OML and Daken aren't clones...

[Tycon]

I did not miss him a bit. I do not applaud his return. Only good thing is because his return another disliked X-Man went away.

IDK Fanto had far more potential (still relatively new), was undergoing a great villain arc in Bunncanny X-Men, tolerable under Spurrier/Bunn/Soule, and is Bi.

Xavier's potential has been dried up since he left the New Mutants for Lilandra, was always a villain, not tolerable under any writer, and is another straight member of the """cast""".

Still think Wolverine/Logan has Chuck beat on that one. I mean there are 6 little clones of him running around the MU.

Maybe the idea would be a better pill to swallow if you stop looking at them like "clones" but an actual family. I haven't seen anyone complain about Batman and his family or say there are like "8 little Bat clones running around the DC".

[cc008]

Well OML and Daken aren't clones...

For all intents and purposes, and the sake of the argument, yeah they are.

[Carabas]

I haven't seen anyone complain about Batman and his family or say there are like "8 little Bat clones running around the DC".

You would be familiar with both if you'd hang out at Batman forums more often.

[Tycon]

You would be familiar with both if you'd hang out at Batman forums more often.

Point is, the Bat-Family is generally more accepted than Logan's Wolvie-Family.

[Carabas]

Point is, the Bat-Family is generally more accepted than Logan's Wolvie-Family.

Older things usually are more accepted than new(ish) concepts.

[lurkerforyears]

the Wolverine family is more samey than the Batfamily

[DragonsChi]

Maybe the idea would be a better pill to swallow if you stop looking at them like "clones" but an actual family. I haven't seen anyone complain about Batman and his family or say there are like "8 little Bat clones running around the DC".

I have. Plenty of times. There is literally so much discord between the Robin fans sometimes it's a wonder how they keep up with the beef between characters.

[Carabas]

the Wolverine family is more samey than the Batfamily

None of them even look like him.Okay, except the guy who is literally him but older. No, scratch that, doesn't actually look like him at all.

Bruce has a bunch of practically identical duplicates in Tim, Jason, and Dick.

[oldscottsummers]

Doesn't excuse this ongoing cultural appropriation. The meta-reasons should override any in-universe rationalizations at this point.

Again I don't remember Marvel trying to pass her off fully as Asian, they don't list her as one of their Asian characters and admit openly that she's a British person in a different body than the one that she was born in, she didn't change her name, she doesn't live in Japan or anything and doesn't try to be what she's not, she still goes home to England...

Marvel treat asians like crap

[LoganAlpha30X33]

Not saying that they treat Asian's great, only that I don't see Marvel trying to pass Betsy off as Asian, they keep saying that she's British woman in an Asian body...

[Tycon]

Older things usually are more accepted than new(ish) concepts.

Plus the whole family aspect writes itself:

OML - Grumpy Grandpa

Logan - Centerpiece; Father

Sabretooth - Uncle You Should Probably Avoid

Deathstrike - Aunt You Should DEFINITELY Avoid

Daken - Emo Older Brother

Laura - Prodigal Daughter

Bellona - Edgy Middle Child

Jimmy - idk he's just there

Gabby - Adorable Little Sister

Adopted:
-Jubilee
-Armor
-Pixie

Johnathan the Actual Wolverine: Super Pet

I have. Plenty of times. There is literally so much discord between the Robin fans sometimes it's a wonder how they keep up with the beef between characters.

I know certain Robin fans hate other Robins. Like I'm a huge Tim Drake fan that hates Damian's guts BUT I would never want the character killed off or write him off as just "another Bat clone". Plus, animosity between fanbases of the kids seems kinda different than just writing off the whole family.

(should've been a mutant)