Who is the superior telepath: Emma or Non-PF Jean Grey

[Chaos Reigns]

For some reason my images are disappearing but it's time to end this discussion/debate.

[Diammandis]

this thread is unnecessarily too long when the answer is extremely simple...Jean has always been portrayed as the better/ superior tp and tk with and without the PF.

[Omegarogue]

They know how funny, that a character with telepathy of the lowe level and limited level, such as the telepathy that has M (Monet) can block Emma, and M can prevent Emma from entering her mind. LOL

Monet is very powerful, but obviously not one of the most apt telepaths, in fact she has to be very close so that her telepathy works and they must make eye contact with her, or she put her hands on the other person.






This does not leave very well to Emma the truth XD.

[rutog98]

For some reason my images are disappearing but it's time to end this discussion/debate.

Yeah, this happened after she used the psimitar on the PF a couple of times. It was injured by this point from the psimitar.

[Rosa Snarks]

They know how funny, that a character with telepathy of the lowe level and limited level, such as the telepathy that has M (Monet) can block Emma, and M can prevent Emma from entering her mind. LOL

Monet is very powerful, but obviously not one of the most apt telepaths, in fact she has to be very close so that her telepathy works and they must make eye contact with her, or she put her hands on the other person.






This does not leave very well to Emma the truth XD.

In all fairness i think this was actually her sisters posing as her at the time (no doubt monet has grown since then) so i'm not sure M would actually survive against Emma

[rutog98]

this thread is unnecessarily too long when the answer is extremely simple...Jean has always been portrayed as the better/ superior tp and tk with and without the PF.

Which is untrue when you see how Jean consistently lost to Exodus as if she were nothing while Emma was actually a great counterbalance for him. When you also consider how Emma was able to break through psi-blocking tech that was superior to psi-blockers that stopped Jean even when she was boosted by Betsy's TP being added to her own. Not when you consider that Emma has much more powerful mindblasts, etc.

[Omegarogue]

this thread is unnecessarily too long when the answer is extremely simple...Jean has always been portrayed as the better/ superior tp and tk with and without the PF.

That's right, he just does not accept it.

[Diammandis]

I feel like more of an argument can be made with Emma and Xavier as to whos the better tp, as Jean is miles above Emma.
also sidenote why are yall so damn aggressive in your replies to others

[Omegarogue]

In all fairness i think this was actually her sisters posing as her at the time (no doubt monet has grown since then) so i'm not sure M would actually survive against Emma

Yes, but it is completely valid, the sisters in their fusion, imitated exactly all the capabilities and the level of Monet, so what the test is genuine.

Emma can be blocked by M's telepathy, and Monet's degree of telepathy is low level.

[Chaos Reigns]

Emma, Quentin, Hope and the cuckoo's were unconscious.

Jeen, the teen version actually hurt the Phoenix.

[rutog98]

I feel like more of an argument can be made with Emma and Xavier as to whos the better tp, as Jean is miles above Emma.
also sidenote why are yall so damn aggressive in your replies to others

Jean is a joke compared to Xavier. She can't even begin to compare without the PF.

[Chaos Reigns]

Yeah, this happened after she used the psimitar on the PF a couple of times. It was injured by this point from the psimitar.

Stop making excuses, she used it once by blasting it, stabbed it and that isn't powerful enough to do the damage she did by herself without it.

[Omegarogue]

Which is untrue when you see how Jean consistently lost to Exodus as if she were nothing while Emma was actually a great counterbalance for him. When you also consider how Emma was able to break through psi-blocking tech that was superior to psi-blockers that stopped Jean even when she was boosted by Betsy's TP being added to her own. Not when you consider that Emma has much more powerful mindblasts, etc.

Starting Exodus is much more powerful and better telepath than Emma, only that Exodus is not well trained with his telepathy, at least it was not in the 90's, it's just raw power.

But Jean never had problems with telepaths inferior to her.

Emma, on the other hand, was overshadowed and blocked, by the sisters of MOnet, who were fused imitating the full powerset of M, and the telepathy level of M is low.






I am sorry.

But Jean is better.

[rutog98]

Yes, but it is completely valid, the sisters in their fusion, imitated exactly all the capabilities and the level of Monet, so what the test is genuine.

Emma can be blocked by M's telepathy, and Monet's degree of telepathy is low level.

Of course you want to go with some of the lower showings for Emma since Jean can't compete with Emma's higher showings.

Heck, when the Phoenix Force probed Emma's psychic defenses and strengths/weaknesses as a TP, why do you think she did that? That means that Emma had to have some extraordinarily powerful defenses coupled with a strong offense. While I'm sure the Phoenix Force could have just overwhelmed her without taking this measure, the fact that she did meant that Emma would have been a big challenge otherwise.

Again, there is no way Jeen is taking on Emma without PIS. The PIS is made worse when one considers that Emma had something boosted when she fought Jeen PLUS she's much better skilled and experienced.

[Chaos Reigns]

Jean is a joke compared to Xavier. She can't even begin to compare without the PF.

You won't concept because in your mind you are right. Jean is more powerful, you lost this discussion when Emma already conceded that Jean is more powerful, several times. You rejected that and created some silly idea that feats are what to go by when the actual pages says in plain English that Emma is nowhere near Jean. If the character can own it and has been written as owning it more than once, why can't you? it