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    Default EPISODE IX Speculation (includes SPOILERS from THE LAST JEDI)

    If you still haven't watched STAR WARS EPISODE VIII: THE LAST JEDI and don't want to be spoiled, it's best to click away now, because discussion for the next movie will refer to key lines and plot points from VIII.

    In THE LAST JEDI, Kylo Ren exhorts Rey to let the past die...to kill it, if necessary.

    What if Rey takes his advice to heart, both figuratively and literally?

    The past of STAR WARS and the Force, the Jedi, lies with the Skywalker legacy. Anakin Skywalker is dead, and so is Luke. Leia lives, but for how much longer (and she's unlikely to procreate more Skywalker progeny before her time on the mortal plane ends)?

    If Rey kills Kylo/Ben Solo in EPISODE IX, the Skywalker bloodline...the past...ends, and she will have killed it. Rey, whom Kylo Ren (if he is telling the truth) has plainly stated is not of the Skywalker bloodline.

    Symbolically, the Skywalker lightsaber built by Anakin and wielded by himself during his time as a Jedi and later by Luke, was finally destroyed in THE LAST JEDI.

    Rian Johnson has said that his eventual new trilogy, which will take place after EPISODE IX, will move STAR WARS beyond the mythos of the Skywalkers.

    Based on this information, I believe Rey will kill Kylo Ren in EPISODE IX and end the legacy of the Skywalkers, starting a new chapter in the history of the Force and the Jedi.

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    At some point, she will end up killing Kylo. There's no other way this story can end
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Whovian View Post
    At some point, she will end up killing Kylo. There's no other way this story can end
    Yes, and it would be a profoundly painful experience for Rey. She might not be related to the Skywalkers by blood, but she has long idolized them from afar and has almost come to see them as her adopted family. To end their bloodline for the future of the Galaxy and the Force might represent that difficult, but necessary sacrifice she must make.

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    Not even looking at themes and subtext, the main hero killing the main villain is always a good bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Not even looking at themes and subtext, the main hero killing the main villain is always a good bet.
    However, this is surprisingly rare in STAR WARS. Obi-Wan Kenobi never killed Darth Vader, nor did Luke Skywalker. Palpatine was finished off by Vader (well, yeah, Anakin, but still in his Vader form), not Luke. Snoke was done in by Kylo Ren, not Rey.

    I don't know how realistic the expectation is, but I think at least some part of fandom is holding out that Rey will turn Kylo Ren back into Ben Solo in EPISODE IX.

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    They both die.
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    Episode 9 prediction thread. Never thought of myself being here. I used to be a SW fan due to the OT. But i was not really passionate about it. But three back to back films which i loved and especially after TLJ i am simply waiting for 2019. I had this kind of excitement a few times before. They also had a couple of good films followed by a film which i loved a lot when they came out, making me wait for the next one. Spider-man 3, Dark Knight Rises, Order of The Phoenix. And X-Men Days of Future Past. ( Which granted had only First Class. I did not love the first X-Men films. But First Class is actually my second favorite X-Men film after Logan).

    One of the best things i liked about TLJ was how unpredictable it was. That first scene where Luke tosses away the light saber was jaw dropping. It caught me completely by surprise. The next one won't be that surprising. I hope it has some kind of surprises and not very predictable.

    I think Rey would rebuild that light saber. The one belonging to Luke and to his father before him. She had the pieces. If she does nothing with that why show it? She happens to have a cool staff. I can see her using the two parts and making that staff a double ended light saber. It would be a callback to Darth Maul. That light saber battle is perhaps the only universally beloved part of that film. I can see them doing that.

    If rumors are to be believed (unless someone confirms it for me. I thought it was by someone at Reddit which is not reliable) Episode 9 will be tying up all three trilogies. Its a good idea to to have call backs to the one good thing of Phantom Menace.

    And can it be done? Can a broken light saber be repaired? Can it be divided into two and be made a double ended light saber as i am thinking?
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    The movie ends with the birth of Kylo’s twin children who in the next trilogy will defeat him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soubhagya View Post
    And can it be done? Can a broken light saber be repaired?
    If the crystal is intact and you know what you're doing, sure. Although it'd probably be easier to just make a new one.
    Can it be divided into two and be made a double ended light saber as i am thinking?
    No. Two blades require two crystals. Ahsoka got the crystals for her two white lighsabers from the dual-bladed saber of an Inquisitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soubhagya View Post
    Episode 9 prediction thread. Never thought of myself being here. I used to be a SW fan due to the OT. But i was not really passionate about it. But three back to back films which i loved and especially after TLJ i am simply waiting for 2019. I had this kind of excitement a few times before. They also had a couple of good films followed by a film which i loved a lot when they came out, making me wait for the next one. Spider-man 3, Dark Knight Rises, Order of The Phoenix. And X-Men Days of Future Past. ( Which granted had only First Class. I did not love the first X-Men films. But First Class is actually my second favorite X-Men film after Logan).

    One of the best things i liked about TLJ was how unpredictable it was. That first scene where Luke tosses away the light saber was jaw dropping. It caught me completely by surprise. The next one won't be that surprising. I hope it has some kind of surprises and not very predictable.

    I think Rey would rebuild that light saber. The one belonging to Luke and to his father before him. She had the pieces. If she does nothing with that why show it? She happens to have a cool staff. I can see her using the two parts and making that staff a double ended light saber. It would be a callback to Darth Maul. That light saber battle is perhaps the only universally beloved part of that film. I can see them doing that.

    If rumors are to be believed (unless someone confirms it for me. I thought it was by someone at Reddit which is not reliable) Episode 9 will be tying up all three trilogies. Its a good idea to to have call backs to the one good thing of Phantom Menace.

    And can it be done? Can a broken light saber be repaired? Can it be divided into two and be made a double ended light saber as i am thinking?
    What will happen is that Rey will either kill Ren, or he'll 'die' like Phasma in TLJ. The rebels will land and they will be joined by others and they'll take down TFO. Finn and Rose will get married. Rey will start an orphanage where she trains Jedi.

    Someone on another thread said that Snoke took over Ren's mind. But i don't think we'll get that lucky. I tend to like 'chessmaster' villains like Snoke. Snoke was more in concert with a real life villain (he just wants to rule the world). He's not an angry man child like Ren.

    I would like to see more of the unpredictability in IX. But it all depends on whether they want to go for good storytelling or just appeal to a mass audiences and turn the film into a live action video game.

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