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    Default The Minority Displacement Thread

    As fans we can change this. We can let our complaints be heard. We need to start but first a quick run through.

    Storm is a list, Marvel's answer to Wonder Woman. She has been displaced, minimized and silenced for over a decade by the X-office.

    Monet is now a mutant eating vampire.

    Synch, Bedlam and other black male characters are dead.

    Bishop is barely usable.

    Bling is freezing during battle while failing to live her dreams.

    That's just the black characters. Not one is shining right now, honestly all of them should be.

    Skin is still dead as are Feral and Thorn.

    Sunfire is in limbo, karma too, Sunpyre is dead. All the Asian mutants are completely invisible or gone with the only exception being Armor. She hasn't had any development in years.

    Let's talk about the native characters. Warpath is doing great but no one else is. Forge is wall paper and a stage 4 creeper, Dani is powerless and not being used.

    All of the POC characters are being mismanaged and abused. This thread is about pointing out how the X-office needs to do better empower characters that aren't white. No one is bashing characters for their skin color just pointing out the X-men are now doing a really bad job at portraying people of color when they were once the vanguards of it.
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    Its the constant battle between moving forward and nostalgia.

    the just look ate the legacy character battles, not jut marvel but DC. Its a raw deal, but hell and least they don't get written into the ground like Cyclops and Captain Marvel.

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    Feel free to list other characters. It's 2018 and it's sad that fans of POC characters are getting shafted by the place that was once a such a supportive space.

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    I think Sunfire was in Avengers recently? Not sure. Frenzy is MIA. Forge too. Cecelia Reyes despite the movie... I think I recall her being used a support character somewhere, but I'm not certain?
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    A very minor non white character I liked is Washout from Tieri's Weapon X.

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    This is a big problem with the X-Men today. An all white, straight, male (predominately) team doesn't work with the premise of the series. The X-Men doesn't feel progressive like it once did.
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    Jubilee has been turned into a vampire, then was eventually thrown into the background w/o much development until Strain came along. After this current series, it appears she's going back into Limbo until all the Axel Alonso stuff is finished.

    Sunspot was race-changed with his blackness taken away. In older comics, he was clearly mixed-black and when the white kids beat him up, they all but used a racial slur toward him. Then somehow, he was no longer black, same with Monet once she left GenX.
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    The X-editorial team is a complete boys club, and they micromanage the writers who try to tell good stories. Why do the Avengers get writers like Ta-Nehisi Coates, Saladin Ahmed, and G. Willow Wilson, who get creative control, but the X-Men are still stuck with a straight, white male boys club with editors AND writers?

    Fans really need to speak up about this.

    The x-editors need to just give it up. X-comics have been trash the past decade, and look what we have ...

    Storm - spineless and useless

    Jubilee, Monet - turned into VAMPIRES!

    Bishop - only used for stupid plot points, like Messiah CompleX, then thrown away






    Quote Originally Posted by NewMutant View Post
    This is a big problem with the X-Men today. An all white, straight, male (predominately) team doesn't work with the premise of the series. The X-Men doesn't feel progressive like it once did.
    Well if you look at the makeup of the X-Men editorial AND writers, it's full of straight white men with the occasional white woman thrown in there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos Reigns View Post
    As fans we can change this. We can let our complaints be heard. We need to start but first a quick run through.

    Storm is a list, Marvel's answer to Wonder Woman. She has been displaced, minimized and silenced for over a decade by the X-office.

    Monet is now a mutant eating vampire.

    Synch, Bedlam and other black male characters are dead.

    Bishop is barely usable.

    Bling is freezing during battle while failing to live her dreams.

    That's just the black characters. Not one is shining right now, honestly all of them should be.

    Skin is still dead as are Feral and Thorn.

    Sunfire is in limbo, karma too, Sunpyre is dead. All the Asian mutants are completely invisible or gone with the only exception being Armor. She hasn't had any development in years.

    Let's talk about the native characters. Warpath is doing great but no one else is. Forge is wall paper and a stage 4 creeper, Dani is powerless and not being used.

    All of the POC characters are being mismanaged and abused. This thread is about pointing out how the X-office needs to do better empower characters that aren't white. No one is bashing characters for their skin color just pointing out the X-men are now doing a really bad job at portraying people of color when they were once the vanguards of it.
    I'd suggest that Marvel is doing a terrible job of empowering literally all their characters, let alone specific sub-groups. Who exactly is being written well by the X-Office at the moment in any X-Title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    I'd suggest that Marvel is doing a terrible job of empowering literally all their characters, let alone specific sub-groups. Who exactly is being written well by the X-Office at the moment in any X-Title?
    Old man logan and old woman Laura I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    I'd suggest that Marvel is doing a terrible job of empowering literally all their characters, let alone specific sub-groups. Who exactly is being written well by the X-Office at the moment in any X-Title?
    Well we have the Mary Sue known as Old Man Logan,who seems to be & know the answer to everything, and keeps every single character in line as if he's always been around / in charge of them. And never does anything wrong, and nobody ever opposes him. Except Sabretooth, who gets treated like **** (by writers) for it.

    From what I hear, Kitty is doing fine in Gold. But I also hear that she's the only one who is.

    Rogue has been doing fine. Who knows if that'll continue in Gold.

    Duggan's Deadpool is also doing well, imo

    I think Bunn does a good Magneto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    I'd suggest that Marvel is doing a terrible job of empowering literally all their characters, let alone specific sub-groups. Who exactly is being written well by the X-Office at the moment in any X-Title?
    Basically everything Silver Fang listed, plus Jubes, Chamber and Husk are all getting great treatment in GenX (for one more issue anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fang View Post
    Well we have the Mary Sue known as Old Man Logan,who seems to be & know the answer to everything, and keeps every single character in line as if he's always been around / in charge of them. And never does anything wrong, and nobody ever opposes him. Except Sabretooth, who gets treated like **** (by writers) for it.

    From what I hear, Kitty is doing fine in Gold. But I also hear that she's the only one who is.

    Rogue has been doing fine. Who knows if that'll continue in Gold.

    Duggan's Deadpool is also doing well, imo

    I think Bunn does a good Magneto
    Kitty and OML characterization in Gold is not compelling in anyway IMO. Knowing and doing everything does not a good characterization make. Rogue has benefited from being mostly written well in non-X-books. Deadpool isn't really an X-Man as far as I'm concerned and he doesn't typically have an ongoing role in X-Books. Magneto is an anomaly but his character comes compelling right out of the box as I feel his character concept is much more compelling than most of the X-Men in general.

    But even if we agree to accept that these 5 have decent characterization at the moment, which I don't, that's 5 of 50+ X-Men who've regularly appeared in an ongoing X-Book. I think my original statement stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfhammer View Post
    I'd suggest that Marvel is doing a terrible job of empowering literally all their characters, let alone specific sub-groups. Who exactly is being written well by the X-Office at the moment in any X-Title?
    The X-Men have been written poorly for nearly a decade though!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The tall man View Post
    Well I think the Sam Wilson Captain America title did a great job of showing real world issues in its pages. With the whole americops storyline and what happened to Rage, that was a great example of bringing real world issues into the fictional world of comics.The X-Men's whole foundation is built on the "mutant metaphor", as stand-ins for minorities but all the focus is on white male and female characters. And the minority X-characters are woefully undeserved or all together sidelined. I just can't get behind Cyclops, Emma, Iceman, Polaris or any other regular looking white mutant crying about bigotry or discrimination when no one would even know they were a mutant if did not use their powers in public. Marvel(specifically the X-office) really needs to rectify their minority problem, the other marvel titles while not perfect has got them beat by a mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterRum View Post
    The X-Men have been written poorly for nearly a decade though!!!!!!!!!!
    True as that may be the minority characters have been treated worse.

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