Jean Grey #11: The End? (spoilers)

[Chaos Reigns]

She isnt. She was dealing with a teenage version of herself, not Magneto. Her voice was off and she came across more like a b-tch, which is not Jean

Really? She's been harsh to a bunch of different people over the years. She was trying to save her life and prepare her for what was to come. There was no time to be nice.

[Havok83]

Really? She's been harsh to a bunch of different people over the years. She was trying to save her life and prepare her for what was to come. There was no time to be nice.

All you did was justify it. It didnt make her any less of a b-tch

[SugarMan]

I was sure the O5 would be gone by the time Jean was alive again. I'm really hoping for them to get the hell out of these books in some event in the middle of the year, I can't stand them anymore. lol

It was maybe a little exciting when teen Jean first came on the scene, because after Hope, this was the closest thing Marvel was going to give as far as Jean Grey goes. But the real deal is back now. Teen Jean was a stand in, but like the Phoenix said, her time is done. And yet she lingers...here. Why? Send them all back! They're redundant and unnecessary.

[Del torro]

She isnt. She was dealing with a teenage version of herself, not Magneto. Her voice was off and she came across more like a b-tch, which is not Jean

Read X-Factor, Jean was a real b-tch in some issues. Anyway, her plan to inoculate teen Jean and save her from the Phoenix kind of worked.

[Gortam]

Read X-Factor, Jean was a real b-tch in some issues. Anyway, her plan to inoculate teen Jean and save her from the Phoenix kind of worked.

I also think she was a bit out of character. Until she met with Emma, there she was Jean again. I love Emma + Jean dinamyc.

[Wiccan]

Everyone's kind of a bitch when written by Hopeless.

[LordUltimus]

Everyone's kind of a bitch when written by Hopeless.

At least they weren't murdering each other here.

[DDM]

Everyone's kind of a bitch when written by Hopeless.

And it’s great.

[DDM]

His Ghost Jean was written unJean like. The final issues were good but he wrote a horrible teen Jean. I’m glad he’s not on Red and the last team book he had wasn’t good

That’s probably why Ghost Jean was good. I loved the adventures of Jeena Dunham too.

His ANXM sucked yeah, but then the O5 are sort of an albatross. Bunn’s honestly not doing much better with them in Blue. The ensemble team Hopeless gathered to help Jeen was great though (Jean, Emma, Hope, Quire, Cuckoos) and would’ve made for an infinitely superior Red lineup and approach.

[Havok83]

That’s probably why Ghost Jean was good. I loved the adventures of Jeena Dunham too.

His ANXM sucked yeah, but then the O5 are sort of an albatross. Bunn’s honestly not doing much better with them in Blue. The ensemble team Hopeless gathered to help Jeen was great though (Jean, Emma, Hope, Quire, Cuckoos) and would’ve made for an infinitely superior Red lineup and approach.

that lineup has little to no diversity. All characters with similar power sets connected to the Phoenix. Their histories and connections are also very intertwined. Red offers many ways to mix things up bc it is so different that Taylor has to think outside the box with this roster

[DDM]

that lineup has little to no diversity. All characters with similar power sets connected to the Phoenix. Their histories and connections are also very intertwined. Red offers many ways to mix things up bc it is so different that Taylor has to think outside the box with this roster

It’s a team of (mostly) psychics, sort of a novel concept and would be ripe for exploration. Also there’s more to diversity than base power set, and even within there’s plenty of room for disctiction. We’ve seen that before on teams with multiple psychics: Xavier/Jean/Emma or Rachel/Psylocke/Monet for example. There’s a ton of interest with the personalities and power dynamics in that lineup though.

Taylor’s team by comparison is a mismatched hodgepodge with no real connecting thread or narrative rationalization. It’s an embarrassing mess that’s only real value is emphasizing the old joke than Jean’s terribad at picking teams.

[Gortam]

It’s a team of (mostly) psychics, sort of a novel concept and would be ripe for exploration. Also there’s more to diversity than base power set, and even within there’s plenty of room for disctiction. We’ve seen that before on teams with multiple psychics: Xavier/Jean/Emma or Rachel/Psylocke/Monet for example. There’s a ton of interest with the personalities and power dynamics in that lineup though.

Taylor’s team by comparison is a mismatched hodgepodge with no real connecting thread or narrative rationalization. It’s an embarrassing mess that’s only real value is emphasizing the old joke than Jean’s terribad at picking teams.

Red team is a great team. Though except for nightcrawler (maybe Namor up to some point) there´s no real connection to Jean. I wanted storm in Jean´s team.

[Havok83]

It’s a team of (mostly) psychics, sort of a novel concept and would be ripe for exploration. Also there’s more to diversity than base power set, and even within there’s plenty of room for disctiction. We’ve seen that before on teams with multiple psychics: Xavier/Jean/Emma or Rachel/Psylocke/Monet for example. There’s a ton of interest with the personalities and power dynamics in that lineup though.

Taylor’s team by comparison is a mismatched hodgepodge with no real connecting thread or narrative rationalization. It’s an embarrassing mess that’s only real value is emphasizing the old joke than Jean’s terribad at picking teams.

Emma and the 3 clones have the same exact powers we. Quentin and Jean ha e the same powers. Hope has the powers of those around her. It’s not about having primarily psychics. It’s aboit only having psychics. New and th female team were more diverse by th simple fact that they had other power groups represented in addition to the psychic characters. They fit as a supporting roster for a solo series as we saw but seem limiting for an ensemble beyond a mini

The fact that there isn’t an obvious link among this team is what makes them interesting. I can’t wait to see Jean form new relationships and what the dynamics will be

Red team is a great team. Though except for nightcrawler (maybe Namor up to some point) there´s no real connection to Jean. I wanted storm in Jean´s team.

She has as much connection to Gambit as she does Kurt. Arguably more so

[DDM]

Emma and the 3 clones have the same exact powers we. Quentin and Jean ha e the same powers. Hope has the powers of those around her. It’s not about having primarily psychics. It’s aboit only having psychics. New and th female team were more diverse by th simple fact that they had other power groups represented in addition to the psychic characters. They fit as a supporting roster for a solo series as we saw but seem limiting for an ensemble beyond a mini

The fact that there isn’t an obvious link among this team is what makes them interesting. I can’t wait to see Jean form new relationships and what the dynamics will be

Emma and Cuckoos aren’t identical power wise and neither are Jean and Quentin really. That’s sort of the point, there’s variance, there’s specialties, and those inherent differences can be explored when you group psychics the way Morrison, Claremont and whoever else have before in a team dynamic. Those previous teams had the same exact derivative complaints and lazy arguments leveled against them but all drew a compelling constrast with their psychics, which was the most interesting part of their lineups tbh. It’s not even about the other characters, but even if that were an issue it’d be pretty easy for Hopeless to grab some other thematically related non-Psi besides Hope.

Red’s lineup is a conceptual car crash and the first issue preview’s not really inspiring much confidence imo. It’s basically Jean gathering up Storm’s sloppy seconds and Logan’s genetic leftovers. Even Dazzler, Northstar and mindraped Frenzy are better than this.

[Havok83]

Emma and Cuckoos aren’t identical power wise and neither are Jean and Quentin really. That’s sort of the point, there’s variance, there’s specialties, and those inherent differences can be explored when you group psychics the way Morrison, Claremont and whoever else have before in a team dynamic. Those previous teams had the same exact derivative complaints and lazy arguments leveled against them but all drew a compelling constrast with their psychics, which was the most interesting part of their lineups tbh. It’s not even about the other characters, but even if that were an issue it’d be pretty easy for Hopeless to grab some other thematically related non-Psi besides Hope.

Red’s lineup is a conceptual car crash and the first issue preview’s not really inspiring much confidence imo. It’s basically Jean gathering up Storm’s sloppy seconds and Logan’s genetic leftovers. Even Dazzler, Northstar and mindraped Frenzy are better than this.

I suppose but thats not what you initially pitched. Im not familiar with Taylor's writing beyond the first arc of ANW, but I am with Hopeless and he's been a disappointment so Im glad that idea did not come to fruition

And why Gambit, Nightcrawler and Gentle gotta be sloppy seconds? I look forward to seeing Kurt not in Gold, Gambit finally on a main roster again and a New X-men being elevated