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    I actually liked Jon as he was because he had potential to grow. Years of story to tell outside of Clark, Lois, and Damien. Now he's just another teenage superhero, he's a dime a dozen now basically just biological form of Connor. As a kid he was more intresting to me.
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    And by winging it I'm saying I think honestly the whole Jon thing is just up in the air. I think he liked the idea, put into action is testing the waters to see how its going IMO not well. And now whether or not it's permanent is completely up in the air which is why he's bullshitting his way through questions everytime he's asked about it. Just My Opinion *shrugs*

    Frankly though I'm done with this coversation overall this whole run has just been hit or miss I hope there's an overall plan in mind, now I'm goin to the club!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacred Knight View Post
    I grant that on that one, its far more likely that he heard "Jor-El is currently alive in continuity" and just went with it.
    That seems a bit of a stretch. Bendis has talked about reading the Tomasi and Jurgens those runs quite a bit. He specifically talked about Oz Effect because he has said he asked whether it was actually Jor El or if it would be revealed to be someone else, like Mxy.

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    I just thought there were more stories to tell with Jon aging naturally instead of off-panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurenai24 View Post
    This whole Jon thing seems to boil down to, I don't like this change b/c of how it effects Clark & Lois and Damian and not anything to do with Jon himself.

    Does Jon have any of his own fans that didn't start liking him just b/c he was a Clois offspring or was friends with Damian...
    Yes, plenty. This comment really feels a complete mischaracterization and oversimplification of the complaints about aging up Jon.
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    I was kind of hoping for spoilers tho, idk if it was here or on reddit but I remember someome saying that scott snyder reveales some things in his AMA.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Yes, plenty. This comment really feels a complete mischaracterization and oversimplification of the complaints about aging up Jon.
    Well until more individuals start talking about their dislike of aged-up Jon without mentioning Clark & Lois and Damian as a main reason, I'll stop with the mischaracterization and oversimplification.

    So far I've only seen 3 or 4 comments from different people about their dissatisfaction with aged-up Jon that was strictly about the character Jon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurenai24 View Post
    I was kind of hoping for spoilers tho, idk if it was here or on reddit but I remember someome saying that scott snyder reveales some things in his AMA.



    Well until more individuals start talking about their dislike of aged-up Jon without mentioning Clark & Lois and Damian as a main reason, I'll stop with the mischaracterization and oversimplification.

    So far I've only seen 3 or 4 comments from different people about their dissatisfaction with aged-up Jon that was strictly about the character Jon.
    Clark, Lois and Damian were the character’s most important relationships, so I can’t say I understand why you’d be fixated on why they’d come up in discussions about the character. Or why you see people enjoying the character dymamics he’s brought to the table as a mark against him. People love Dick Grayson, how many online discussions about him go on without mentioning Bruce, Starfire, Barbara or Damian. Of course you’re free to stand by your conclusion, but I doubt many share it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    That seems a bit of a stretch. Bendis has talked about reading the Tomasi and Jurgens those runs quite a bit. He specifically talked about Oz Effect because he has said he asked whether it was actually Jor El or if it would be revealed to be someone else, like Mxy.
    Yeah I'm probably getting ahead of myself there. Hey if he explains it, excellent. I just don't begrudge people bringing up the disconnect at the moment between his arrival, he he and Clark act toward one another, and the ending of Oz Effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurenai24 View Post
    I was kind of hoping for spoilers tho, idk if it was here or on reddit but I remember someome saying that scott snyder reveales some things in his AMA.



    Well until more individuals start talking about their dislike of aged-up Jon without mentioning Clark & Lois and Damian as a main reason, I'll stop with the mischaracterization and oversimplification.

    So far I've only seen 3 or 4 comments from different people about their dissatisfaction with aged-up Jon that was strictly about the character Jon.
    You can't honestly think the 3 or 4 comments is the sum total of Jon fans even by internet standards.

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    Default Return of the Super Sons soft confirm??

    Bendis retweeted this

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    "JON AND KON ARE GONNA MEET ONCE!!����❤
    Thank you so much for this @BRIANMBENDIS !
    Just one last question from me, Is Jon and Damian's reunion would be for one issue or more?"


    Bendis then replied

    Bendis: "more than one. tons more."


    "Tons more" as in them teaming up will be a whole lot more than one issue. But specifically saying "tons" indicates a regular thing. I feel like one can be forgiven for thinking that this is maybe pointing towards another new title for Wonder Comics season 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    Yes, plenty. This comment really feels a complete mischaracterization and oversimplification of the complaints about aging up Jon.
    My primary dissatisfaction is that we didn't get to see him grow up and, thus far, his own supporting cast (Cathy, Boyzarro) are nowhere to be seen or mentioned. I liked what he had going for him, but I'm willing to see where Bendis takes Jon, albeit cautiously.

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    CLARK CAN GROW FACIAL HAIR BY FLEXING HIS JAW MUSCLES!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by kurenai24 View Post
    Well until more individuals start talking about their dislike of aged-up Jon without mentioning Clark & Lois and Damian as a main reason, I'll stop with the mischaracterization and oversimplification.

    So far I've only seen 3 or 4 comments from different people about their dissatisfaction with aged-up Jon that was strictly about the character Jon.
    First off you have to admit that aging up Jon is going to effect his relationships and interactions with all the other characters he has associated with so of course people are going to mention those other characters when talking about aged up Jon. Characters do not, after all, exist in a vacuum. They grow and change and one way they do so is through their relationships and interactions with other characters

    Secondly my problem with this aging up business has nothing to do with the change itself and everything to do with the execution of it as well as the set up for the change. Having things happen off panel can be a good thing in certain situations and when done well can add a sense mystery, intrigue and excitement to things. Unfortunately in this case it's doing none of those things for me because the whole set up for this was bungled IMO and also because aging up characters is so cliche.

    In any case I was really hoping we'd get a 10 year old Jon meeting his "older brother" Kon type of situation. I still think that dynamic could have been fun. A teenage Jon meeting a teen age Kon just doesn't have the same appeal to me.
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    Are you meaning to tell me that all the juicy questions he answered were about Jon? Nothing about the state of Lois and Clark's relationship with her ongoing on the horizon?

    I'm beginning to think the whole "Jon will eventually become the Superman of one of the core books" speculation could bear fruit if Bendis is this fixated on his journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurenai24 View Post
    I was kind of hoping for spoilers tho, idk if it was here or on reddit but I remember someome saying that scott snyder reveales some things in his AMA.



    Well until more individuals start talking about their dislike of aged-up Jon without mentioning Clark & Lois and Damian as a main reason, I'll stop with the mischaracterization and oversimplification.

    So far I've only seen 3 or 4 comments from different people about their dissatisfaction with aged-up Jon that was strictly about the character Jon.
    I can’t watch any Scott Snyder interviews because he’ll spoil the entire upcoming story arc lol. He’s just unable to keep a secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superlad93 View Post
    CLARK CAN GROW FACIAL HAIR BY FLEXING HIS JAW MUSCLES!!!!

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    I heard about that in bleedingcool.. Anyway.. I like Superman with beard..

    This reminds me something that I read before.. That the golden/silver age superman? can move his muscles(or something like that) to make Superman and Clark bodies different changing his structure.. I remember 2 images showing him as Clark and Superman and their bodies were a little different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Are you meaning to tell me that all the juicy questions he answered were about Jon? Nothing about the state of Lois and Clark's relationship with her ongoing on the horizon?

    I'm beginning to think the whole "Jon will eventually become the Superman of one of the core books" speculation could bear fruit if Bendis is this fixated on his journey.
    As much as i would like to see Jon as superman the second. I don't think that is the reasons, here. R/DCcomics is not generally a place where Clois is talked about. Sure, the consensus is that they like the couple and hell a lot more than New52 smww. They just don't really seem to be fans. They are casual about it. And shipping usually is Tumblr thing anyway. Ofcourse there are some Lois fans,there.Jon and Wally are just that reddit's most favoured characters in general after rebirth . Like i said most guys there are comparatively new to comics.Started with New52/last period of post crisis or with rebirth. Ofcourse there are also many casual fans as well.

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