Official : Bendis gets both books

[Superlad93]

Interestingly enough, Morrison's Clark was a good deal happier growing up, generally speaking. Lana and Pete were always there for him, he didn't get picked on, and from a young age Pa would encourage super deeds, if not out right instigate them himself. That Clark was also never shown to be conflicted over learning of his heritage. New 52's outsider nature didn't really seem to kick in till he was in the city.

Secret Origins isn't my first pick for a Superman story, but that Clark did have very clear and present issues with fitting in and feeling comfortable with himself growing up. When he learned he was a alien her didn't mourn the loss of these people he didn't know but rather he did mourn the facade of just being Ma and Pa's son. And Clark was actually so troubled by his situation on Earth that when three flying strangers who dress enough like him say they're from the future, he literally begs to go with them, and he says it's because he can't deal with not fitting in here anymore.

[movieclub]

Can someone help me with the timelines here? Where does Superman take place with regards to Leviathan

[Superlad93]

Bendis retweeted it this...

https://twitter.com/robstaeger/statu...06744715980800

"Um....CHILDREN? @BRIANMBENDIS , what does Jax-Ur know that we don't?

#ChildrenofJorEl"



I'm just sayin....

[Yoda]

Can someone help me with the timelines here? Where does Superman take place with regards to Leviathan

Superman and Event: Leviathan are happening at the same time more or less. Superman leaves Earth with Jon and Lois goes off investigating Leviathan. My guess is the chronology kinda goes:

Man of Steel 1-6;
Superman 1-6 (except the last 2 pages);
Action Comics 1001-1010,
Superman: Leviathan Rising Special;
Last 2 pages of Superman #6-Superman 10;
Event: Leviathan and Superman 11-12

[Last Son of Krypton]

Bendis retweeted it this...

https://twitter.com/robstaeger/statu...06744715980800

"Um....CHILDREN? @BRIANMBENDIS , what does Jax-Ur know that we don't?

#ChildrenofJorEl"



I'm just sayin....

Superman has a twin brother that in a year from now will join Jason (WW's brother) in the comic-book limbo.

[Superlad93]

I now preemptively DEMAND fan art of Rogol Zaar in a big Christmas sweater taking an awkward El family picture.

I also demand racist uncle Zaar at the dinner table memes. We're also dangerously low on Chaz memes.

[Ascended]

Its a horrible decision, but I've figured it was coming for so long its hard to get too mad about it anew, as I've already been mad about it.

But I mean, its just another superior detail to Morrison's foundation that hopefully, someday, can be used elsewhere. Just hope people stop trying to say that Reborn combined the two Supermen. This was an absorption, plain and simple, when all is said and done.

Yeah, Im right there with you man. This possibility has been hanging over Clark since Johns decided to stick his fingers into the mythology again with Clock.

I'm annoyed, but I can't really muster anything more than that.

If we're lucky, hopefully it'll just be one of them. I can roll with that, since most of the core points of the Kents dying remain mostly intact if it's only one who passes. Far from ideal but I can accept it.

I now preemptively DEMAND fan art of Rogol Zaar in a big Christmas sweater taking an awkward El family picture.

I also demand racist uncle Zaar at the dinner table memes. We're also dangerously low on Chaz memes.

Yes to all of this!!!

[kurenai24]

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This one involves Supergirl, is this from a legion comic...

[Sam]

I feel like that's to be expected when he's still having a story actively unfold about the character right now, and he doesn't want to give too much away. But there are clear points he has in mind such as Jon's reunion with Damian, and what his teased destiny is. Also, for the time being at least, he has to filter Jon's story at least in part through Clark's because he's writing Clark's book, hence why Clark gets the internal narration.

And the point of my comparison wasn't on how reversible the situations were, but rather how both characters were taking from their traditional set-ups and close proximity to Clark, and are now being returned with something new to them. Lois' stuff has since begun to payoff, and it's been made abundantly clear that they are as in love as they've ever been, and funny enough they're working more as a team than they have in years of publication. In Jon's case, similar to Lois, first the misconceptions are being tossed out: he didn't come back evil, he continues to uphold what his family stands for, he's still in compete awe of his dad, and he's still learning. But he's also come with the addition of a strengthened resolve and a greater degree of independence. Now, hopefully, we get the equivalent of greater DC comics prominence, some sort of book, and continued closeness with Clark.

And it's totally fine if your thinking continues to be "they could've done XYZ and gotten this" or that you don't see the point. Ultimately it's subjective, but circling this back to my original point because I'd rather this be my last message on the matter, I think the point is that he knows it may seem like he's just blowing all of this up for the heck of it, but he genuinely think's the stories he'll be able to tell are worth it and people will dig them. I think that's all he's ever meant.

If he understood what people like about Jon, he wouldn't have aged him up in the first place. Everything we've seen since then shows there is no reason to believe he has any understanding of how to write for the character. Jon already had developed resolve and some independence. Bendis hasn't done anything new or interesting with the character. He's just taken away elements people enjoyed. If he honestly believes he can win the Jon fans over, more power to him, but I don't see much reason to believe he can.

[Superlad93]

is this from a legion comic...

Close. It's Booster Gold

[DragonPiece]

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This one involves Supergirl, is this from a legion comic...

someone in the comments thought that was booster, but I have no clue honestly. But he would fit in with a imprint like this

[kurenai24]

Hmm so possibly five comics coming out of this imprint if this is a Booster Gold comic.

[Sam]

Could it be Rip? I'm not super knowledgable about Rip outside of Legends of Tomorrow.

[Superlad93]

https://www.newsarama.com/45553-scot...-for-them.html

Nrama: "So does this tie in to Doomsday Clock at all? Because we’ve seen the seeds of the Justice Society returning in Doomsday Clock."

Snyder: "Not really. I mean, Doomsday Clock really is its own wonderful, incredible story. The kind of light connection between them is just that, what Geoff and I talked about was because Doomsday Clock is kind of running at its own pace and in its own kind of continuity, what I didn’t want to do was bring the JSA back before he had a chance to reintroduce them as a concept in issue #10.

I think that’s similar with other characters that he’s going to be using in Doomsday Clock as well.

So there’s a nod to each other in that regard. I wanted him to be able to have the JSA as an idea, and have that first appearance in Doomsday Clock.

But in terms of the continuities linking up, Doomsday Clock is a very special and inspirational book. We’re all amazed, I think, at how good it is. But its effects are relatively self-contained to itself."


There you have it, Doomsday Clock is confirmed to only lightly be part of normal continuity. It was only ever intended to be an evergreen book for bookstores and people not too immersed in DC month to month. The regular creators are sort of just allowing Johns to introduce the ideas of the characters in Clock, but they will not be beholden to Clock as concrete continuity. This likely goes for Bendis too with the Legion and the Kents. My guess is that creators will now treat Doomsday Clock as this sort of nebulous free pass for slight shifts in continuity they were OKed for. So, it's very likely it doesn't matter if Bendis intended for this run to be before or after Clock, and there is not "threat greater than Manhattan that Snyder will follow up with in Crisis." It's just it's own thing, and it's in continuity enough.

[Sacred Knight]

I'm still not sure how I feel about this parentage thing, but since its looking more and more like Superlad was right all along and it is happening, he gets a Coke.