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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    At least use the one from 1939. That one has his parents in it. My guess is soft reboot where the Bendis run more or less never happened. No one seems particularly attached to his Legion. Everyone seems to like Jon (if they like him at all) as a 10 year old, and there was no way the SI was going to be gone permanently. My guess is we're looking at a return to pre-Flashpoint with Jon in the picture. Or they'll just hand the whole thing over to Mark Waid and let him do whatever he wants. Six of one.
    Precisely the point, it's about time superman stopped with "Ma! Pa! Sky father!" nonsense. Orphan superman ftw.

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    No, keep the Kents alive. Drop the stupid trunks. Deage Jon. And of course the identity becomes secret again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by objectivewatcher2013 View Post
    No, keep the Kents alive. Drop the stupid trunks. Deage Jon. And of course the identity becomes secret again.
    Why? So that, he can run home to them to make his life decisions. What is he? A baby.

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    Secret identity going back this time might take a bit more than even fixing the Jon bullshit. Thing is Bendis went out of his way to make losing the secret identity look like a good thing with almost entirely positive effect on Clark's life. If you're going to put the genie back in the bottle, you'd have to reestablish stakes. Easiest way to do that unfortunately is fridging someone. Look at how Peter Parker only got reversed because May was shot, Or Wally West getting Hal to reverse it because Zolomon killed his children.
    Like if they reverse it right now, readers will just think "why is he putting up a charade again? seemed like he had nothing to fear by saying the truth?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Why? So that, he can run home to them to make his life decisions. What is he? A baby.
    Good point, they don't serve a purpose. The stories you can tell with the Kents have been told multiple times already. No offense, but they are dead narrative weight. I hope the next writer proves me wrong but I'm not holding my breath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Why? So that, he can run home to them to make his life decisions. What is he? A baby.
    No, what Alfred is to Batman, the Kents are to Superman. That version of Superman has always worked best. And btw, his whole freaking planet blew up, he's already an orphan lol.

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    The Kents purpose is to Superman grounded as Clark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by objectivewatcher2013 View Post
    No, what Alfred is to Batman, the Kents are to Superman. That version of Superman has always worked best. And btw, his whole freaking planet blew up, he's already an orphan lol.
    No, alfred actually has a personality and purpose. He makes tea. Damn good tea. he's not there to shove moral platitudes to readers and batman himself. Superman himself doesn't needed it. You just proved my point. His planet went boom, time for the kent to take the same lead. That version never worked. It only made Clark's morality dependent on others be it sky father or earth father. Superman exists because of instinct and choices he made. Not what his parents made. Superman should be an orphan like naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by objectivewatcher2013 View Post
    The Kents purpose is to Superman grounded as Clark.
    So what? Orphans can't "ground" themselves. Btw, i am an orphan myself.please
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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Precisely the point, it's about time superman stopped with "Ma! Pa! Sky father!" nonsense. Orphan superman ftw.
    Um...they still have to ADOPT him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manwhohaseverything View Post
    Why? So that, he can run home to them to make his life decisions. What is he? A baby.
    Having a good relationship with your parents and seeking out their wisdom and guidance as and adult doesn't make you a baby. Quite the contrary actually. It makes you a well adjusted adult, which there are far to few of in superhero fiction.

    Having the Kents alive and having a good relationship with them makes him stand out from every other superhero who has dead parents. They can be overused, like anything else, but thats because of bad writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    Having a good relationship with your parents and seeking out their wisdom and guidance as and adult doesn't make you a baby. Quite the contrary actually. It makes you a well adjusted adult, which there are far to few of in superhero fiction.

    Having the Kents alive and having a good relationship with them makes him stand out from every other superhero who has dead parents. They can be overused, like anything else, but thats because of bad writing.
    Many people don't have luxury. Moreover, superman needs pathos. He is the man who has "everything" . Meaning he has nothing. He is working class man with nothing but god given talent/strength which he honed, a pen, a paper and ideals. Kents are just there for fluff and drama. Nothing more or nothing less. Kents worked best only in that nail series where they took in orphan meta human kids and plastic man. Other than that, superman has jimmy, bibbo, turpin, sawyer,.. Etc. An entire cast full of people. He doesn't need to stand out. He just needs to feel like a guy worth rooting for. Superman had dead parents before any of them, anyways .
    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    Um...they still have to ADOPT him.
    Yeah! Yeah! That can happen and be quickly skipped through like in the original origin story. It's boring, like the whole krypton backstory in man of steel.
    All superman needs is
    "doomed planet, desperate scientist,... Etc"
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    Quote Originally Posted by objectivewatcher2013 View Post
    The Kents purpose is to Superman grounded as Clark.
    No that’s Clark’s purpose. Superman doesn’t need other people to keep him grounded, he’s not Dr. Manhattan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    No that’s Clark’s purpose. Superman doesn’t need other people to keep him grounded, he’s not Dr. Manhattan.
    Superman is a Kryptonian with godlike abilities in comparison to humans. The great thing about being Clark is having people around you who look at you as Clark not Superman.

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    Since Geoff Johns brought the Kents back I would love for him to takeover Superman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    Having a good relationship with your parents and seeking out their wisdom and guidance as and adult doesn't make you a baby. Quite the contrary actually. It makes you a well adjusted adult, which there are far to few of in superhero fiction.

    Having the Kents alive and having a good relationship with them makes him stand out from every other superhero who has dead parents. They can be overused, like anything else, but thats because of bad writing.
    Problem is their advice is often painfully generic and is usually “Believe in yourself, follow your heart, etc” and that’s the kind of generic advice Clark should be giving Jon, not running to his parents to get. Plus I’d rather see Clark interacting with Lois and Perry and Jimmy for that kind of thing anyway.

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