Richard Grayson's Soulmate

[Confuzzled]

Not an "unattractive" person, but in terms of an older woman, Lady Shiva + Nightwing would be pretty hot.

[Rac7d*]

Not an "unattractive" person, but in terms of an older woman, Lady Shiva + Nightwing would be pretty hot.

i still get squick about jason and talia or Bruce and babs
i dont need dick with cass mom

[Confuzzled]

i still get squick about jason and talia or Bruce and babs
i dont need dick with cass mom

Dick and Cass don't have the relationship or history that Jason/Bruce or Dick/Babs/Bruce have.

[The Dying Detective]

Well, the JSA being back on their own earth would make a lot of us happy, too. But odds are there are fewer of us old fans who want the JSA on earth-2 than there are ones who want them on clutter earth.

Well once they do i hope DC will have it in their minds to have Dick and Karen date.

Personally, I think DC looks at Dick's role on the Titans (or Outsiders, or any team) the same way they look at Batman's role in the League (or Outsiders, or any team). They think of Batman as a Gotham-based vigilante who leaves the city limits in order to deal with problems before they reach Gotham. He's not a member of the wider world; he's just visiting. I think DC looks at Nightwing the same way now; he's *just* a Gotham street hero who visits the wider DCU. He's a tourist, not a resident.

I think it's true of Bruce; Gotham is his first (and by and large, only) priority. When he helps the League save the world, he's really helping Gotham. He's just a tourist of the larger DCU. Nightwing however, I think is more of a true citizen of the world. The Titans weren't just where he went to fight threats before they reached his city's doorstep; he was truly a part of that bigger world. It's not just the Titans team itself, its his Super uncle in Metropolis, it's (post Grayson) his spy connections around the world, his ties to the Outsiders, his ties to the younger heroes he's looked out for and helped (including ones who didn't serve with him as a Titan). Dick's got friends everywhere, from the Vega system to Keystone city to Suicide Slum to Gotham to Nanda Parbat.

He's not *just* a Bat or *just* a Titan. He's both, and more. Hell, he's an honorary Super. This is the one character who could traverse the entirety of the DCU and never feel out of place. And what does DC have him doing? Beating up casino thugs in Bludhaven and telling the Titans what to do. It's a gods damn waste.[/QUOTE]

I get what you mean over the years Dick has been DC's golden boy perhaps surpassing even Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Dick can be anything he wants he was on the right track when he was in Spyral now that's rendered moot but nevertheless at least he still has Spyral. While it has bene rendered moot but maybe if Seeley was brought back on Dick can get the prominence he deserves.

[oasis1313]

LMAO! No one would see that crazy ship coming

That's why it'd knock everyone's socks off and be the talk of the internet. I think Dick could make an honest woman out of Granny.

[Ascended]

Well once they do i hope DC will have it in their minds to have Dick and Karen date.

Well, you know I'd be excited as hell about it but I really doubt anyone at DC feels the same.

Hold out hope that someday I stumble upon a DC editor and we get to talking and my sparkling ideas blow them away to such a degree they hire me for an editor's position.

I get what you mean over the years Dick has been DC's golden boy perhaps surpassing even Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Dick can be anything he wants he was on the right track when he was in Spyral now that's rendered moot but nevertheless at least he still has Spyral. While it has bene rendered moot but maybe if Seeley was brought back on Dick can get the prominence he deserves.

I think if we want to see Nightwing hit the level of greatness we know he's capable of, it's going to happen (sort of) like it did with Black Panther (according to an interview on the blu-ray I watched, anyway).

Some random, lesser writer is going to get the book and DC's upper management is going to largely ignore whatever is being done by the writer. By the time they realize that this unknown writer has turned Nightwing into one of the biggest, greatest, badass-iest heroes in the DCU, they'll rant and rave about how Dick cannot be allowed to surpass the big names.....but it'll be too late. The course will be set, the fans will be passionate, and DC will have no choice but to continue letting Dick Grayson live up to his potential.

[Ascended]

That's why it'd knock everyone's socks off and be the talk of the internet. I think Dick could make an honest woman out of Granny.

lol I'm glad you like the idea so much.

Now, I sorta want to see it happen, just for you.

[TheSupernaut]

I'm personally still a fan of Dick and Zatanna as lovers.

[oasis1313]

lol I'm glad you like the idea so much.

Now, I sorta want to see it happen, just for you.

Awwww, thanks. It'd be interesting to see DC address the problem of age discrimination with its most handsome male character in a serious relationship with an elderly lady of distinction. It would prove that Dick Grayson is not so shallow he only goes for redheads--he could have a blueheaded woman who looks hot in chainmail.

[The Dying Detective]

Well, you know I'd be excited as hell about it but I really doubt anyone at DC feels the same.

Hold out hope that someday I stumble upon a DC editor and we get to talking and my sparkling ideas blow them away to such a degree they hire me for an editor's position.



I think if we want to see Nightwing hit the level of greatness we know he's capable of, it's going to happen (sort of) like it did with Black Panther (according to an interview on the blu-ray I watched, anyway).

Some random, lesser writer is going to get the book and DC's upper management is going to largely ignore whatever is being done by the writer. By the time they realize that this unknown writer has turned Nightwing into one of the biggest, greatest, badass-iest heroes in the DCU, they'll rant and rave about how Dick cannot be allowed to surpass the big names.....but it'll be too late. The course will be set, the fans will be passionate, and DC will have no choice but to continue letting Dick Grayson live up to his potential.

Hey I'd do it too but first DC needs to work on their employee treatment practices it's not a great way to win over new employees. And they need to open the front door more. First though you'd have to prove that your ideas can look good in execution not just on paper. How did you know that through Black panther? And I would kill to be that writer.

[Ascended]

Hey I'd do it too but first DC needs to work on their employee treatment practices it's not a great way to win over new employees. And they need to open the front door more. First though you'd have to prove that your ideas can look good in execution not just on paper.

Well, I can't prove that the ideas would actually work, since I'm not a writer (I dabble, really, but that's it). But I'd imagine that, like anything else, it would largely just come down to the skill of the writer and their ability to pull it off.

How did you know that through Black panther? And I would kill to be that writer.

There's a special feature; a round table discussion with some of the various writers T'Challa has had over the years. One of them told the story.

[oasis1313]

I'm personally still a fan of Dick and Zatanna as lovers.

Dick and Zatanna might be cool, except that with having the same color hair, they'd look like Donny and Marie.

[The Dying Detective]

Well, I can't prove that the ideas would actually work, since I'm not a writer (I dabble, really, but that's it). But I'd imagine that, like anything else, it would largely just come down to the skill of the writer and their ability to pull it off.

There's a special feature; a round table discussion with some of the various writers T'Challa has had over the years. One of them told the story.

Well they are your ideas and given what I've seen when James Robinson tried to implement Geoff Johns' ideas for Wonder Woman. You're better off doing it yourself because onyl you know to a degree how to execute them. What did the special feature say?

[Ascended]

Well they are your ideas and given what I've seen when James Robinson tried to implement Geoff Johns' ideas for Wonder Woman. You're better off doing it yourself because onyl you know to a degree how to execute them. What did the special feature say?

I suppose that's true; no one is as effective at implementing your ideas than you are.

The special feature? I forget exactly. It had Chris Priest, Coates, the director and main script writer for the movie, and another comics writer (the only white guy in the room) who's name I actually forget right now for some reason. And he was saying that back in the 60's or 70's or whenever, you just couldn't really do a book like Black Panther; it was too radical and divisive. But editorial wasn't paying attention to what was actually happening in the book so the writer got to go nuts with it, and by the time editors started paying attention (I think around issue 4 or 5, maybe 6, the guy said) it was too late, readers were responding, and Marvel just sort of had to accept that its fictional universe now had this incredible badass black king who was smarter than Reed Richards and a better fighter than Steve Rogers and had cooler tech than Tony Stark.

[Jabare]

Dick Grayson and Starfire immortalized their love in the New Teen Titans. One of DC's most iconic books in the 80s. The only title that rivaled the X-men. One of the most iconic young superhero teams in history. They still headline a hit tv show that's been on the air in two incarnations for over a decade. They have a daughter together. They are faithful in true.


Bruce Timm spent two direct to dvd films and the entire DCAU cementing the fact that Barbara Gordon and Bruce Wayne are soulmates. Barbara carried Bruce's child for 7+ weeks.

Barbara Gordon put it best.



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