Richard Grayson's Soulmate

[Godlike13]

What does it matter, nothing matters anymore. "Grayson’s" soul is doomed...

[Starrius]

Nightwing Mini Series Plans 1991
Posted by Nightwing on Feb 4, 2012 in Library, Titans Hunt Era: Archives (1991-1995


There was a planned NIGHTWING mini-series planned as far back as 1991; Originally, it was going to be done by Art Thibert. There was even a promo-poster for it in TITANS $ELLOUT SPECIAL. It eventually was scrapped and Nightwing later had a mini series by Dennis O’Neil and Greg Land in 1995.

The Plot: Art Thibert on the Nightwing Mini-Series

I asked Art Thibert about the aborted Nightwing mini-series at the 4th Annual New York International Sci-Fi & Fantasy Creators Convention in 2003. He told me the whole overview.

As the mini-series opened, Starfire confronted Nightwing about ‘where their relationship was heading’. They had been dating for a few years and reached the point in their relationship where it had to take the next big step. Before any decisions were made, an alien invasion threatened the earth, taking Starfire hostage. Nightwing investigated and started formulating a plan to stop the invasion and rescue Starfire.

Meanwhile, the other heroes in the DC Universe learned of the alien threat and mounted a counter-offense. But Batman stopped them from taking any action when he realized Nightwing already had the situation accessed and was confident his former sidekick could handle it on his own.

Nightwing is able to reach the aliens and stop the invasion – as well as rescue Starfire. The mini-series would end with Nightwing cradling Starfire in his arms, emerging from the alien stronghold. A crowd of DC heroes would part to watch Nightwing emerge with Starfire in his arms, having defeated the alien threat. Now reunited with Kory, Nightwing proposes marriage and she accepts.

The mini was geared to establish Nightwing’s ‘coming of age’ as a major, competant hero in the DC Universe. Art Thibert said Marv Wolfman read the overview to the mini-series and approved it. Unfortunately, there was a major editorial shift and Thibert was offered a very lucrative offer from MARVEL to do CABLE. With NIGHTWING in doubt, Thibert opted to take the CABLE assignment, much to the loss of Titans fans.
http://www.titanstower.com/nightwing...es-plans-1991/

[Restingvoice]

What does it matter, nothing matters anymore. "Grayson’s" soul is doomed...

Wow... it's really bad when you also mope in a shipping forum

[dietrich]

spiderman has Maryjane
superman has Lois
Nightwing has Babs

Didn't Clark also have Diana and Lana?
Don't read Spiderman but wasn't there someone called Gwen?
Fictional Characters don't have soulmates especially comic characters who are at the mercy of various writers.

[Godlike13]

Wow... it's really bad when you also mope in a shipping forum

This is me now. The world has become an abyss, and darkness is all I see.

[Starrius]

Didn't Clark also have Diana and Lana?
Don't read Spiderman but wasn't there someone called Gwen?
Fictional Characters don't have soulmates especially comic characters who are at the mercy of various writers.

the person is trying to make a point that Barbara is the definitive love interest of Nightwing just like Mary Jane is the definitive love interest of Spider-Man and Lois is the definitive love interest of Superman

but it's not a good argument
Kory was the love interest of Robin/Nightwing from 1980 to 1994, and they were one of the most iconic couples in DC comics, and there was a plan for them to be married until there were editorial changes.


as somebody else made a point
the shipping is split between Barbara and Kory when you consider not only the comics but also things outside comics
there is the Teen Titans show that helped increased the popularity of Dick/Kory ship
there is the Animated Movies including especially the Teen Titans: Judas Contract showing Kory as the girlfriend of Dick and that also helped increased the popularity of Dick/Kory ship
there is also the live action Titan show to consider
there is also Injustice 2


hey.....I used to prefer Barbara and voted for Barbara , but now I prefer Kory and wished that I could change my vote to Kory after watching Teen Titans: Judas Contract and reading many of the 1980s,1990s Teen Titan, Titan comics
After reading about the retcons that were used to pump up Barbara as the love of Dick's life and diminish the significance of Kory's history with Dick and make Kory look like the bad girl that got in good girl Barbara's way, I am starting to strongly dislike (I don't believe in hating) the Dick/Barbara pairing. I won't say anything bad about it because I don't want to put down a pairing in order to defend the one that I like. If I have to do that, then all that says that I am insecure about the pairing that I prefer.
I also noticed some people were slut-shaming Kory, and that irritated me. She's a lot more than just the clothes that she wears as a superhero, and she wears normal clothes plenty of times in the comics.
I actually strongly dislike the superhero attire that she had on, but I was able to look past that and see that she's a character with a lot of depth and layers.

[Restingvoice]

Didn't Clark also have Diana and Lana?
Don't read Spiderman but wasn't there someone called Gwen?
Fictional Characters don't have soulmates especially comic characters who are at the mercy of various writers.

Clark only has Diana for like... 5 years, so it's not really a comparison to Lois who's been his love since the beginning. Lana was established as Clark's first love, but pretty much everyone agree he's gonna end up with Lois. She's mainly featured during his past in Smallville.
Gwen is Peter's first love, but she's been dead long before today's generation. She's only recently become popular again because of the alternate universe Spider-Gwen and the Amazing Spider-Man movies where she's the love interest.
Nightwing is the only one I know who has 2 love interest with equal chance and equally passionate fan base which include the writers.

[byrd156]

This is me now. The world has become an abyss, and darkness is all I see.

Are your eyes open?

[Rac7d*]

Didn't Clark also have Diana and Lana?
Don't read Spiderman but wasn't there someone called Gwen?
Fictional Characters don't have soulmates especially comic characters who are at the mercy of various writers.

Those relationships are had long runs and iconic but they come to end to make way for the definite

[byrd156]

The debate will never end between Babs and Kori but the more important question right now is. What happens to the supposed love triangle or Vicki after Lobdell?

[Rac7d*]

The debate will never end between Babs and Kori but the more important question right now is. What happens to the supposed love triangle or Vicki after Lobdell?

When dick looses his memory he won’t know who Vicky is
Nor is she essential enough to prioritize in whatever his rehabilitation is

[byrd156]

When dick looses his memory he won’t know who Vicky is
Nor is she essential enough to prioritize in whatever his rehabilitation is

Unless Lobdell deems her to be. We have no idea if this idea is till going to happen or if he is doing his own spin on it or if the original idea is being kept.

[dietrich]

Those relationships are had long runs and iconic but they come to end to make way for the definite

You see I don't see any definite. It all comes down to who gets a good story and who get popular. If there was a Nigthwing movie with Shawna as the love interest then the landscape could change. In a few years lord know who knows what might be. Kory and Babs are the better known ones but I wouldn't call either his soul mate because it isn't set in stone.

[dietrich]

Clark only has Diana for like... 5 years, so it's not really a comparison to Lois who's been his love since the beginning. Lana was established as Clark's first love, but pretty much everyone agree he's gonna end up with Lois. She's mainly featured during his past in Smallville.
Gwen is Peter's first love, but she's been dead long before today's generation. She's only recently become popular again because of the alternate universe Spider-Gwen and the Amazing Spider-Man movies where she's the love interest.
Nightwing is the only one I know who has 2 love interest with equal chance and equally passionate fan base which include the writers.

I would say that the SmWw base rivals the Clois which is amazing because that pairing [SMWW] doesn't even work.
The popularity o the SMWW and how quickly it became popular shows just how easy love interests can become "soulmates".

[byrd156]

I would say that the SmWw base rivals the Clois which is amazing because that pairing [SMWW] doesn't even work.
The popularity o the SMWW and how quickly it became popular shows just how easy love interests can become "soulmates".

Outside of the Injustice series there hasn't really been any huge Wonder/Superman stuff out there. I honestly forgot that this happened in the comics.