Who should lead the Mutant Nation?

[DDM]

Looks like we finally have a challenger. :3

[Harpsikord]

Does it count as a challenger if said challenger is brainwashed by mutantkind's current enemy number one? :P

[dkrook]

Bishop he is the leader it deserves but not the one it needs right!

[DDM]

Continued from the locked tread:

If we're doing the Jean vs Storm thing, I think it's the opposite. Jean fits more as someone to be a Xavier figure and take care of the school. I see Storm as more of a warrior, it makes sense for her to be the one leading in battle.

Based on what? Jean was never much of a teacher or a mentor. The closest she ever got was with who, Rusty? Dust, sort of?

Jean never really showed the initiative or aptitude to take over for Xavier. She actually has less experience in a leadership position than Kitty even, who you seem to think was handed it out of nowhere. I don’t think she commands or inspires like Storm and she doesn’t have her strength of character or spirit either. Ororo really just outclasses her in every way that matters to fill Xavier’s shoes; to be the elder statesman and steward of The Dream.

Jean just has too much to learn, too much to prove, too much to actually do. The sad truth is the thing she was best at being was a memory.

Roberto and Ilyanna have recently shown the chops (although Ilyanna's attitude can be scary, which is part of what makes her so awesome, and yet might not make her the best choice to lead), and I think both Dani and Shan could do it, if any writer wanted to take the plunge with them.

While Sam seems to have been groomed for the position, back in the day, being the token white boy on the team (by Xavier, in-book, if not necessarily by the writers), I feel like Dani pretty much demonstrated that she was a better fit for the role (and yet diplomatic enough to call him her co-leader, since it wasn't about who had the nametag for her, but about getting it done). I kind of feel like the writers had an editorial mandate from on-high that the white boy had to be the 'Cyclops' of the team, and that they kind of passively resisted and made Dani the effective leader, while towing the line and letting Sam be leader-in-name-only.

I agree on Roberto, he’s really come a long way and I’m excited to see what Citizen X brings. I’m also enjoying Illyana’s role as squad leader over in New Mutants, and enjoy the open animosity between her and her boss Shan. I sincerely hope they start fucking soon.

I agree on Dani and Sam too, it really felt like Liefield grabbed the skinny white kid he most identified with, grabbed his hot blonde girlfriend and then flushed the rest of those multicultural New Mutants. Then Sam just sort of naturally metriculated up while everyone else kept getting held back at the kids table. It’s too bad too, as I think it also did a disservice to Sam. Dani was the tactician and the obvious choice for field leader but Sam was also someone the rest looked to for support and emotional leadership. It was a great dynamic between them with a flipped expectation in the usual gender roles; essentially Dani was the more masculine and Sam the more feminine in terms of leadership role. Then sadly after Claremont & Simonson were forced out tptb just turned Sam into a boring one note Cyclops Jr and Dani was literally forgotten by those white dudes (symbolic). :/

[The Ray]

Namor should be the leader.

He is Marvel's first mutant, he is deeply loved by the likes of Emma Frost and has the love and admiration of some of Marvel's most popular heroic figures like Captain America and Sue Storm.

Literally all the women in the poll find hard to resist the guy.

He is the obvious choice.

[CuteClops]

Cyclops is the definitive x-leader.

[jpmst17]

Cyclops is the definitive x-leader.

i completely agree

[Midnight_v]

Cyclops is the definitive x-leader.

i completely agree

I third the motion, and agree.



However...
Lets say cyclops stays dead for 15 years and that would suck but I can see it as wolverine stayed dead for approximately 4 jean stayed dead for... I don't even care.

Who should lead the Mutant nation / X-Peoples... In his absence for the next decade (assume for this that they ARE going to prop someone up to do it)

[jpmst17]

I third the motion, and agree.



However...
Lets say cyclops stays dead for 15 years and that would suck but I can see it as wolverine stayed dead for approximately 4 jean stayed dead for... I don't even care.

Who should lead the Mutant nation / X-Peoples... In his absence for the next decade (assume for this that they ARE going to prop someone up to do it)

I think jean is diplomatic and likable enough to do it

[CuteClops]

I third the motion, and agree.



However...
Lets say cyclops stays dead for 15 years and that would suck but I can see it as wolverine stayed dead for approximately 4 jean stayed dead for... I don't even care.

Who should lead the Mutant nation / X-Peoples... In his absence for the next decade (assume for this that they ARE going to prop someone up to do it)

According to the critics of Cyclops, there shouldn't be a Mutant nation. So, no leader of any mutant race, just team leaders and a school principal.

[EmeraldGladiator]

Alex Summers, Summers leadership gene, has played on both sides of the fence, studied under Xavier but has admitted to having Magneto leanings, connection to X-verse and Avengers was also a US government liason back when X-Factor was a government run unit that he led.

[Havok83]

Alex Summers, Summers leadership gene, has played on both sides of the fence, studied under Xavier but has admitted to having Magneto leanings, connection to X-verse and Avengers was also a US government liason back when X-Factor was a government run unit that he led.

Alex is not fit to lead anyone, especially not in his present condition. The guy needs quite a bit of rehabilitation after the past several years which did a number on him

[donpricetag]

Since when did the X-Men represent the whole "mutant nation"? That's like saying General Milley represents all of America. No, he's a leader of the U.S. Army, not the flaming President. The X-Men, while in large parts are the defenders of mutant-kind, they do not speak for all of it. That was shown with Magneto's Asteroid-M, Genosha and with the Morlocks. All instances where a collection of mutants came to be without support from the X-Men. Utopia is the only example where the X-Men spoke for all of mutant-kind, and that place died a long time ago (much to my chagrin). There is no mutant nation, and as such, asking people whom they would like to lead it isnt the same as asking people whom they would like seeing lead the X-Men. C'mon mods.

[Havok83]

Since when did the X-Men represent the whole "mutant nation"? That's like saying General Milley represents all of America. No, he's a leader of the U.S. Army, not the flaming President. The X-Men, while in large parts are the defenders of mutant-kind, they do not speak for all of it. That was shown with Magneto's Asteroid-M, Genosha and with the Morlocks. All instances where a collection of mutants came to be without support from the X-Men. Utopia is the only example where the X-Men spoke for all of mutant-kind, and that place died a long time ago (much to my chagrin). There is no mutant nation, and as such, asking people whom they would like to lead it isnt the same as asking people whom they would like seeing lead the X-Men. C'mon mods.

Utopia. The mods dont need to do anything This thread was created as a response to X-men Red. Jean didnt go to the UN on behalf of the X-men as a way for them to represent a mutant nation. She was an individual with a plan for change

[FIGHT]

I didn't like it when Cyke was supreme leader and dont like it now that kitty leads. The X-Men have a lot of members and shouldn't just have 1 leader. I think we need a council or some shit. 5 or 6 mutants that decide what should br done.