Heck No!
Well...
Heck yeah!
A Mary Sue is supposed to mean a blatant self-insert or stand-in character so no.
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Never thought of Gwen Stacy as a Mary Sue type of character at all.
Her characterisation have been writen much better that to diminsh Gwen Stacy as just a Mary Sue type of character.
The Closest I think Spider-man ever got to one is Carlie. Cause remember how we had months and months of everyone telling Peter just how perfect and great she is. And that Gwen story in that 'Many loves of Spider-man" one shot that said Gwen and Carlie grew up together. That showed Gwen as this unlikable little brat, and Carlie soveling murders at age 8.
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Not necessarily. They can be and many of them are, but they don't have to be self-insert/stand-in to be a Mary Sue. Same goes for vice-versa. A character doesn't necessarily become a Mary Sue just because he/she is the self-insert/stand-in for the author. I mean, have you read any of the Stephen King books?
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I do agree that Stone's acting did Gwen more favors than the script did.
I never saw that myself, to be totally honest (some bits worked, but they had some really bad scenes too).
Yeah, I like that assessment.
Never saw that.
Seriously?
Doctor Strange: "You are the right person to replace Logan."
X-23: "I know there are people who disapprove... Guys on the Internet mainly."
(All-New Wolverine #4)
Slott's Silk is pretty much what a Mary Sue with flaws looks like, although there are far worse around, like Sentry when they really wanna kiss his ass.
Gwen not having flaws in ASM movies makes her into a "Miss Perfect", but that's hardly what a true Mary Sue is like, though not having flaws is a trait, but even Spider-Man gets some traits once in a while (Hint hint, his victory over Firelord is complete bullshit), having some traits is hardly that much of a problem, it can be annoying though, but that depends both on the trait and the execution.
Last edited by Lukmendes; 02-13-2018 at 07:08 AM.
She still doesn't have enough well-defined traits as a character to be labelled as a Mary Sue. Not to mention no uniformity in characterisation. Spider-Gwen is a completely different character from Lee/Romita Gwen. Lee/Romita Gwen was a completely different character from Ditko Gwen. And none of these characters fit the St. Gwen image pushed post her death in stories like Spider-Man: Blue. Emma Stone's Gwen was underdeveloped and was just superficially painted as "perfect" so as to have an impact when she was led to the slaughter.
What an inconsistent mess lol.
No, because if she were a Mary Sue, she would have killed Norman Osborn instead.