Yeah, by the time Claremont got to do Forever, Marvel had already used a lot of his ideas already(Wolverine:Enemy of the State is straight up from his gamebook of Logan being killed and resurrected by the Hand as a mind-controlled killer, for example). I don't think it was truly a reflection of what would have been had Harras not booted him decades before.
Let the flames destroy all but that which is pure and true!
Many did. I think he brought her to the Logan wedding in the 170's and everyone was like....uh, why does this bitch look and sound just like Jean? Then Scott married her a couple issues later. Big boys make their own choices... friends can't dictate their friend's love lives like that.
Let the flames destroy all but that which is pure and true!
It probably will make him feel like it was for all retcons and character assassinations fornothing. Well it really was.
I think people could even look away a bit because we all know Jean was the love of his life. So he going to see her is a bit understable.
But them later he just cheating on Jean is impossible to excuse. He just did the same thing he did with Maddie and that Claremont reinforced.
I don't think Claremont hates Cyclops, but as some have pointed out, these characters were real to him and I don't think he could process the disconnect between the Cyclops he wrote for so many years and what was happening with the breakup.
That said, he actually did come up with a retcon - Sinister's imprinting at the orphanage - that offers an explanation, if not an excuse. But because it was his own retcon, I don't think he ever bought it.
And for all the talk that he didn't want to share, he was the one who tried to keep the X-universe together by tying into Morrison's run, or later, like in #460, trying to make sense of Enemy of the State, Whedon's run, etc. In X-Men the End, he even incorporated elements of Chuck Austen.
He was only dating her at Logan's wedding and people didnt know how serious it was (which it wasnt bc they had only known each other a few issues). I thnik the point wano was making was why said conversation didnt happen when he decided to marry her bc at that point he was making a permanent commitment to her. My guess is that it happenned so fast that we can only hope it happened off panel but CLaremont didnt really address it
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It was a major plot point of the original Madelyne Pryor story arc (Uncanny #168-176). If memory serves, Scott tells Maddie about Jean, including showing a picture, in the same story where he reveals to her he's a mutant. They mutually decide to move forward with their relationship anyway.
A couple of issues later, after trying to investigate her background and finding out she doesn't have one, he point blank asks her if she is Jean. She responds by decking him. From there, they immediately get pulled into a plot involving Mastermind who wants revenge on Cyke. The X-Men defeat Mastermind, Scott rescues Madelyne, and then they get married. Just before the wedding, Scott gives a monologue over Jean's grave claiming that he's moved on and that he loves Madelyne for her, not because of how she looks and sounds like Jean.
YMMV as to whether you buy it as a reader. I never did.
Everybody has their 'I hate Cyclops' phase.