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    I don't think that the power up of SSB has been retconned.

    The form has however been a bit over-used.

    And to be honest, the power up one got from it was never really well defined to begin with.

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    Dragonball having internally inconsistent power levels?

    No, surely not...

    I kid, I kid. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonknight11 View Post
    Thats what i Thought at first, but now i figure her power as controlled beserker was just more controlled and contained and ssjb goku was holding back as usual.
    This is the correct answer to it right here. Kale wasn't holding back, she was just more controlled and didn't try to nuke everything in her sights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    And to be honest, the power up one got from it was never really well defined to begin with.
    The best indicators that I can think of his the fight with Jiren(who went from blocking an SSG Gokus punches with his finger, to outright avoiding and actually blocking the attacks from an SSB Goku), and the fight with Kefla(SSG Goku was being utterly blitzed and smacked around by a base state Kefla, while SSB Goku momentarily held his own against an LSSJ1 Kefla before her power increased).

    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    seems to be that universe 6 saiyans, while lacking the bigger physiques, have impressive ki control. still impresses me the strides cabba, caulifla and kale have made in barely two days of training and combat.
    They seemed to have been on their universes kami lookouts. Meaning they could have been in the hyperbolic time chamber, thus those 2 days would be 2 years. I could be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    This is the correct answer to it right here. Kale wasn't holding back, she was just more controlled and didn't try to nuke everything in her sights.



    The best indicators that I can think of his the fight with Jiren(who went from blocking an SSG Gokus punches with his finger, to outright avoiding and actually blocking the attacks from an SSB Goku), and the fight with Kefla(SSG Goku was being utterly blitzed and smacked around by a base state Kefla, while SSB Goku momentarily held his own against an LSSJ1 Kefla before her power increased).



    They seemed to have been on their universes kami lookouts. Meaning they could have been in the hyperbolic time chamber, thus those 2 days would be 2 years. I could be wrong though.
    there was really nothing to hint that they used or even have a hypberbolic time chamber. they did visit champa's palace before the tournament where he gave kale and caulifla the portara earrings but it didn't look like they did any kind of training there, and given champa's personality, i highly doubt he would allow them to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    there was really nothing to hint that they used or even have a hypberbolic time chamber. they did visit champa's palace before the tournament where he gave kale and caulifla the portara earrings but it didn't look like they did any kind of training there, and given champa's personality, i highly doubt he would allow them to.
    I think the training just comes from the fact that they grew up on the mean streets of South Central South City. Or was that East Coast West City? Or the North Side East City?

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