I have an idea. DC could do a team movie.
Some of us wait, some of us act.
Pretty much. Not to mention BP was the MCU's 18th movie. It's not like they didn't have the rights to the Black Panther character like they didn't with some of their A-listers. They cared so much about representation that they wanted to make sure their white heroes got successful movies first in order to establish their cinematic brand and only then start to think about the diversity factor. The MCU is the furthest thing from instant gratification, people should think about it before they say that WB has no choice but to "answer" them. They shouldn't try to answer **** until they actually get their act together.
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Does DC need to answer Marvel on whatever Marvel introduces? No.
Does DC need to improve their work on representation in various ways: Hell yes. But right now they have mostly crappy representation, so better make sure to do it right.
This is what it boils down to.
There were folks fighting to make sure Black Panther was not made. All of their names are executive producers of that billion dollar movie.
Marvel was never woke. Don't let anyone tell you different.
They LUCKED out on what many writers have pointed out to me-the market for black lead stuff especially superheroes is WIDE OPEN to whoever wants it.
Marvel chose to jump in and HOPED for the best. Antman box office returns. Not Avatar box office. NO one expected that demand film, toys and what have you.
Why are they not doing more? Yes that is a legit question. Because unlike DC the line of black guys who have their own worlds is long. Blade, Cage, Night Thrasher, Blue Marvel, Brother Voodoo and even lesser guys like Flint, Rocker Racer, Prowler, Moon Girl, Riri Williams and Bishop say hi.
All I can say is they didn't expect that big of a hit with Panther. Otherwise they have no excuse.
I'm cool with more characters especially minorities getting more of a shot than they normally would. If they wanna do the futile thing and pick a fight with Marvel/Black Panther, then so be it.
I'm sick of tradition, lets break the rules and try some new things.
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DC: Justice League, The Flash, Justice League Dark, Superman, Action Comics, Green Arrow, Justice League Odyssey, The Terrifics, Teen Titans, Titans, Brimstone, Female Furies, Damage, Heroes In Crisis
Marvel: The Punisher, Cosmic Ghost Rider, Venom, X-23, Cloak and Dagger, Jessica Jones, Sentry
Indies: Unnatural, Jeepers Creepers, Project Superpowers, Black Hammer, Ninja-K
I think it's a freaking disgrace how many great characters there are in the DC stable that AREN'T being used as they should.
And I believe a couple are absolute no brainers
Black Lightning - An AWESOME character, already has a great history within the DCU and currently has a top-notch TV show to boot! Let's get a Jefferson book on the stands ASAP!!
Static Shock - Another brilliant character who by rights should already be a member of the new Teen Titans. DC seem to refuse to utilize the the Milestone universe, so let's start bringing them all across to the DCU proper, Icon, Hardware, Rocket the Blood Syndicate. Let's go ALL OUT!
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Marvel tried to use most of their popular characters first to give them solos, which are heroes created in the 60's when minorities weren't accepted in pop culture?
Iron Man 3 movies
Thor 3 movies
Captain America 3 movies
Avengers 2 movies
Hulk(bombed)
GOTG 2 movies(team ensemble)
Doctor Strange
Ant-Man
Spider-Man
All these came before BP and the only question marks might be Doctor Strange and Ant-Man. I don't really see the problem. Marvel tried to use the popular characters first. Granted GOTG is an odd choice but that is a team movie in space. It's not like I see Marvel going to pump out more white solo male hero movies soon.
I give DC some slack on milestone simply because it's tied up in legal issues but at the same time A) I'm sure if DC really wanted to they could have settled this issue a long time ago and B) they're plans have appear to be sticking them on another earth which likely would mean little to no interaction with the mainstream heroes which is a bummer.
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Of the characters listed here, the most popular one was the Hulk due to the live action t.v series, the 90s cartoon and 2003 Hulk film. The Guardians, the Avengers and Dr Strange were nowhere near as popular as they are now at the time of the MCU's infancy. Iron Man was expected to bomb partly because of the character's lack of popularity (the other factor was RDJ's run ins with the law making him a controversial casting choice).
The MCU could have used BP as the second, third or fourth character to get a solo film as he was about as popular as any other character they had access to. How popular you are with the general audience doesn't affect how successful your movie is. After all, the first successful Marvel comic movie was Blade.