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    Quote Originally Posted by Endsong View Post
    You're really grasping at straws here, my dude. Olivia Munn is a woman who is ethnically biracial, but she identifies as Asian, and most people who see her can tell that she is.
    Nope, I had no idea she was Asian until I read up on her when she was cast. I do think she has a racially ambiguous look that doesnt automatically scream Asian


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelossik View Post
    Guggenheim has the most selling x-men team book
    Soule has team book which is losing readers faster than any other.

    Guus is focused mostly on Kitty but developed other characters like Colossus.
    Soule is focused mostly on X but didn't develop other characters.

    Stakes in gold are also higher than in Astonishing. In Astonishing X-men... X-men can't lose... even death can't stop them

    Ehhh, is this a joke right, Colossus development? When???? When Colossus open his mouth is just to say "Katya" "Kitty".
    But, i have really bad news for you, astonishing sells better... Even the first issue.

    Here.... April X-gold1 #3 (114,332) July Astonishing1 #2 (122,287)

    July
    Astonishing #2 (122,287)
    X-gold #20 (53,462) #28 (46,615)

    August
    Astonishing #22 (51,353)
    X-gold #29 (44,853) #31 (43,439)

    September
    Astonishing #18 (57,539)
    X-gold #26 (52,623) #45 (41,657)

    October
    X-gold #11 (81,970) #47 (41,878)
    Astonishing #50 (40,588)

    November
    X-gold #42 (39,997) #44 (39,126)
    Astonishing #47 (37,135)

    December
    X-gold #32 (38,148) #36 (37,616)
    Astonishing #41 (35,437)

    Enero
    Astonishing #18 (50,772)
    X-gold #45 (36,915) #47 (36,471) #52annual (34,325)
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    I mean I know people wanted white Betsy back, but wow!!

    Where is Spiral when you need her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorge17881 View Post
    Ehhh, is this a joke right, Colossus development? When???? When Colossus open his mouth is just to say "Katya" "Kitty".
    But, i have really bad news for you, astonishing sells better... Even the first issue.

    Here.... April X-gold1 #3 (114,332) July Astonishing1 #2 (122,287)

    July
    Astonishing #2 (122,287)
    X-gold #20 (53,462) #28 (46,615)

    August
    Astonishing #22 (51,353)
    X-gold #29 (44,853) #31 (43,439)

    September
    Astonishing #18 (57,539)
    X-gold #26 (52,623) #45 (41,657)

    October
    X-gold #11 (81,970) #47 (41,878)
    Astonishing #50 (40,588)

    November
    X-gold #42 (39,997) #44 (39,126)
    Astonishing #47 (37,135)

    December
    X-gold #32 (38,148) #36 (37,616)
    Astonishing #41 (35,437)

    Enero
    Astonishing #18 (50,772)
    X-gold #45 (36,915) #47 (36,471) #52annual (34,325)
    We should compare 1st issue to 1st issue... unless You want to "prove" that R+G has better sales than Astonishing because 1st issue of R+G outsold Astonishing 6...
    X-Men Gold 1 $4.99 Marvel 114,332
    X-Men Gold 6 $3.99 Marvel 48,569
    X-Men Gold 12 $3.99 Marvel 41,657 (36,4%)

    Astonishing X-Men 1 $4.99 Marvel 122,287
    Astonishing X-Men 6 $3.99 Marvel 35,437 (28,9%)

    As You see... more people stayed with 12th issue of Gold than with 6th issue of Astonishing. Other team books:

    Extraordinary X-Men 1 $4.99 Marvel 133,716
    Extraordinary X-Men 6 $3.99 Marvel 47,572 (25,5%)

    Uncanny Avengers 1 $4.99 Marvel 105,234
    Uncanny Avengers 6 $3.99 Marvel 41,567 (38,5%)

    Weapon X 1 $3.99 Marvel 68,874
    Weapon X 6 $3.99 Marvel 35,607 (51,6%)

    Yes... even Weapon X 6 outsold Astonishing 6. Only Extraordinary X-men were losing readers faster than Astonishing.

    Ehhh, is this a joke right, Colossus development? When???? When Colossus open his mouth is just to say "Katya" "Kitty".
    Which is more than Rogue and Gambit did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis1313 View Post
    So Betsy is an English woman inhabiting the body of a Japanese she-Ninja; Prof X is a hoary old man inhabiting the body of a "French" thief"--and now they're both in there "Together"? Poor Betsy !!!!!!!
    I thought they ditched that Betsy ninja's body swap story years ago. it was becoming and convoluted as Cable's back story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandfall View Post
    I thought they ditched that Betsy ninja's body swap story years ago. it was becoming and convoluted as Cable's back story.
    No. They didnt ditch it. Shes still british in an asian body. Her original body which was swapped with the ninja Kwannon was infected with the Legacy Virus which died
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    Well by that point both bodies had been melded together to the point where even Logan couldn't tell the difference and the tp's amongst the X-Men couldn't tell the difference...

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    Quote Originally Posted by berserkerclaw View Post
    No. They didnt ditch it. Shes still british in an asian body. Her original body which was swapped with the ninja Kwannon was infected with the Legacy Virus which died
    Then the Asian body also died, and when she was recreated and brought back to life by her brother, she was placed in an Asian body.

    So for all intents and purposes she isn't in the stolen body anymore. This current body, an Asian one, is Betsy's own. Not to mention that her original body has been destroyed twice since then as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raidensix View Post
    "X" is a little too creepy to be Xavier. Maybe he's not 100%?
    I thought so too. Something doesnt seem right with Charles. But I'm fairly sure he'll be back to his old self by the end of the series

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    I think its obvious he's not Xavier. Thats Shadow King. There is a reason his speech bubbles are still black. Thats the most blatant clue. I also believe thats why this book is so self contained bc Xavier isnt actually back and wont be outside of this title

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok83 View Post
    I think its obvious he's not Xavier. Thats Shadow King. There is a reason his speech bubbles are still black. Thats the most blatant clue. I also believe thats why this book is so self contained bc Xavier isnt actually back and wont be outside of this title
    Xavier is properly coming back . He was mentioned in Blue as working with Magneto to send the O5 Home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denirac View Post
    Xavier is properly coming back . He was mentioned in Blue as working with Magneto to send the O5 Home.
    maybe but I have doubts its happening through X

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    I don’t know if I’m in the minority or the majority but I loving this title and I love X. He’s been in the Astral plane fighter his most hated enemy for what it seemed to him as hundreds of years (if I remember correctly; someone will tell me if I’m wrong) so his shady characteristics are appropriate. I think all the characters are used decently, without one outshining the others. But I could go without OML being there. The different art teams for each issue hasn’t been a problem because I haven’t hated any of the artist – as of yet.
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    I am also loving the book and X. And the changing art is not bothering me in the way I thought it would, because I'm liking all of them. Even the least interesting ones are still good.

    Regarding X, I think it's not "our Charles", that's why he is calling himself X. I'm seeing it like, Charles spend so much time on the Astral Plane with such a disturbing presence of Farouk, that he became something else. He is a corrupted version of himself. He might have the memories Charles had, but he is something else, and we should not think about him as Charles, nor the X-men. And I may be wrong, but I think that by the end of issue 12, Charles will not become his old self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endsong View Post
    Then the Asian body also died, and when she was recreated and brought back to life by her brother, she was placed in an Asian body.

    So for all intents and purposes she isn't in the stolen body anymore. This current body, an Asian one, is Betsy's own. Not to mention that her original body has been destroyed twice since then as well.
    I don't know why people continue to have Betsy' s transformation wrong. They never "swapped" bodies. Spiral mixed the DNA. Memories, powers and skills etc.... of the 2. Creating two almost identical Eurasian girls, who shared the same memories. Revanche just so happened to end up with the bionic eyes. The proof is when Revanche shows up. Not Professor x, Nor Jean Grey, Nor Wolverine could tell them apart.

    When Jamie brought her back he said he did so exactly as she was before in the same spot even where she died. He made some alterations to her powers but she is still technically an Eurasian female.

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