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    Default MCU Black Panther vs Darth Sidious (Prequels)

    Who takes fight?

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    Force Lightning.
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    Can it get through Vibranium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDiggle View Post
    Can it get through Vibranium?
    Widow slowed him down with her gauntlets shocks, so I'd say force lightning would be a problem.
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    He has powerful TK, so he can just lift panther up in the air and then do whatever he wants to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidMoniker View Post
    He has powerful TK, so he can just lift panther up in the air and then do whatever he wants to him.
    TK is kinetic energy. The suit should be able to just no-sell that.

    A lightsaber on the other hand... that could hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    TK is kinetic energy. The suit should be able to just no-sell that.
    Since he can move objects, open doors, jump, punch people, etc. it is clear that the suit doesn't completely absorb kinetic energy from any and every source imaginable. I think it is a stretch to say he can't be affected by telekinesis, especially since he has been physically thrown around by Kilmonger.

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    Then Vibranium is falsely advertised and doesn't have the feats to do the thing that makes it special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Then Vibranium is falsely advertised and doesn't have the feats to do the thing that makes it special.
    It is falsely advertised. It absorbs sharp impacts (punches, bullets, falling from great heights, etc.) but not all kinetic energy. Then again, if it absorbed all kinetic energy the vibranium meteor would be sitting on the surface of the planet, it could not be mined, it could only be shaped by melting and then pouring it into a mold, it could never be lifted, someone wearing a suit of it could not move, when used as a knife or other slicing/impact weapon it would cause no damage. Oh yeah, it would also stop the Earth's motion through the universe. MCU vibranium has the feats it has, and none of those feats are resisting TK.

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    Its magic wonder metal that follows the needs of the plot. Something as simple as hitting something with it should produce a result very different from what is advertised. As Spider Man said, "it does not follow the laws of physics at all".

    And I agree, TK should win it here.

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    The suit probably has a limit on what it can absorb per hit so BP isn’t like Sebastian Shaw in that sense: BP went flying off when Killmonger hit him with the bazooka, I think he got hit by the rhino at one point.

    Sidious can throw BP around as much as he wants with Force TK, however I’m not sure with the Force Lightning because the suit was upgraded in the movie. If Sidious gets close enough, BP can do that AoE effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDiggle View Post
    Can it get through Vibranium?
    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    TK is kinetic energy. The suit should be able to just no-sell that.

    A lightsaber on the other hand... that could hurt.
    It doesn't have to.

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    The Force is already there inside the suit, Palpatine just has to give it a nudge.

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    Not seeing the force lightning as an effective solution. It's never really behaved much like electricity, and it's kind of got a bad track record anyway.

    Using TK through the suit seems like something outside anything Palpatine has actually demonstrated. Can probably grab it and toss it around just fine, but actually doing damage seems unlikely. As for holding him in place and doing whatever he wants to him, I guess we've seen force choking, but again, not seeing why he should be able to do it through the suit except for the one time ever that Vader did it between ships, and that was Vader and doesn't really feel supported by the other TK feats in the series.

    How's Panther for strength feats in his suit? Would TK be able to hold him in the first place?
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    Strength doesn't really factor into being held in the air with TK, since there's nothing to leverage against, in any case I don't remember Panther displaying anything that would put him close to Sheev casually lifting and hurling multiple senate platforms simultaneously

    also the controls on the BP suit are the teeth necklace on the outside correct? What's to stop Sheev from deactivating it while holding him off the ground? Even if he doesn't know it initially he has plenty of time to poke and prod at the suit while T'challa's helpless, and the teeth stick out compared to the rest of the suit
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    Quote Originally Posted by BitVyper View Post
    Not seeing the force lightning as an effective solution. It's never really behaved much like electricity, and it's kind of got a bad track record anyway.

    Using TK through the suit seems like something outside anything Palpatine has actually demonstrated. Can probably grab it and toss it around just fine, but actually doing damage seems unlikely. As for holding him in place and doing whatever he wants to him, I guess we've seen force choking, but again, not seeing why he should be able to do it through the suit except for the one time ever that Vader did it between ships, and that was Vader and doesn't really feel supported by the other TK feats in the series.

    How's Panther for strength feats in his suit? Would TK be able to hold him in the first place?
    The suit's still pliant, Palps could just use the Force to twist his head until his neck breaks. Or do that to any other bone.

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