Meet in the middle of their 2 sports.
Pro kickboxing match.
Meet in the middle of their 2 sports.
Pro kickboxing match.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
Frankie a really, REALLY good standup fighter?
Because if he isn't, and doesn't have really fantastic kicking on top of that, you're hamstringing the wrestler by putting him in a kickboxing match, here.
Additionally, Mayweather has 3" of reach on him - edit: sorry, 4" - and is at least the same weight.
So...Frankie better be a stellar boxer himself and have some pretty great kicks for this to even be a fight, is what I'm saying.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Frankie is a /great/ boxer, by MMA standards at least. Obviously Floyd is clearly better still.
His biggest strengths are his absurd durability/soak and inexhaustible gas tank. He's constantly moving.
Kicks are ok. Not top tier by MMA standards but not terrible either. He uses them to create openings more than damage
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- big_adventure
https://youtu.be/DqbDs_6fmQ4
Quick highlight vid.
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- big_adventure
Is this American kickboxing rules?
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
...working solely off of the video, by the standards of a boxer, Frankie's boxing is mediocre. At best. :P
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
K1 gives him better odds than American, though I don't feel his odds are fantastic.
Okay, so as a boxer he's going to get waaaay outboxed by Mayweather.
His big chances are to try to wear away Mayweather's legs with kicks. And use the knees.
K-1 disallows elbows, and he can't throw in the clinch. That hurts him.
The kicks will 'surprise' Mayweather. I mean, he'll be expecting them, but he hasn't trained to defend against them and lacks the proper reflexive reactions to them. They might make him tentative, which opens up the way for more kicks to slow him down.
But if he manages to get inside the kicks and not get hurt by a knee, he's going to destroy Frankie.
Mileage may vary.
Last edited by Sharpandpointies; 02-26-2018 at 08:50 AM.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
Thanks for the clarification! And the breakdown. I tend to agree
I am curious about the x factors to this fight though. I doubt Floyd can KO Frankie just based on their respective offense/defense histories. So a decision seems likely.
My thoughts are maybe Floyd wins the early rounds, but then begins to slow and lose ground due to kicks in the later rounds? Maybe?
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
The kicks still have to land.
Is it possible? Sure. Mayweather doesn't have the experience dealing with kicks, it's going to mess up his ability to react to them (just wait, someone is going to come flying in here and say 'what, he can react to a punch but not a kick? That's wrong!' <-- I'm guessing, but past experience...real life isn't comic books, one gets what one trains for and not training to deal with kicks means....). So it's possible that Frankie will be able to wear out his legs....
...only you just said that Frankie isn't exactly an inspired kicker, and tends to only use kicks to make openings. Throwing out 'decent but not great kicks' against someone who is one of the better boxers around, who has 4" of reach advantage, means it's quite possible that one finds oneself standing on one leg when getting hit Really Freaking Hard™.
This is not good.
My money is on Mayweather, here. If it was MMA rules he'd lose this one, but it's not. Frankie probably makes a fight of it thanks to the kicks and potential of a knee if Mayweather gets too close, and has a chance of taking it I guess, but I'd say safe odds are on this particular boxer in this particular circumstance.
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate
I don't hate this as the most likely result.
Hmm... now I've got lots of other fights in mind, but I don't want to spam the forum.
"At the end of the day, Arby is a pretty prolific poster proposing a plurality of proper posts for us."
- big_adventure
I will note that my opinions are based on what I have seen of the fighters. Sooooo....maybe there's some youtube out there that proves me wrong, I don't know.
And as always, mileage may vary. ^_^
Why are we here?
"Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
"...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
"Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate