Tom King's Batman or Scott Snyder's Batman

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I like Tony Daniel's run on Batman proper, in the RIP/Reborn context. I don't find what he was doing in Detective with the n52 very good, though.

Daniel's New 52 run is definitely a thing that existed.

I miss Dini's Riddler most. Snyder turned Riddler into "Joker but with bad Riddles", and King had Riddler mostly be a gang leader with complicated plans. Though I will say I kinda liked his Riddler better in Killing Time.

Snyder's Riddler felt like more of an intellectual darwinist than like Joker. Was Zero Year kind of excessive for a Riddler plot? Yeah, but Nigma's voice felt on-point.

The War of Joke and Riddles (and that weird unbuttoned shirt) just kind of soured me on King's Riddler.

Shrug. I don't really play powerlevels. I just really don't like the way Snyder sees Batman as the literal center of the universe. On a philosophical and spiritual level.

There's a reason other DC fans resent Batman so much at this point.

See, I myself don't see this as a negative, but a key core positive of Snyder. Because I think Snyder manages to find new (and interesting) angles and dimensions to mine for characters like Joker (and Batman and other rogues and sidekicks).

I think it's fine up to a certain extent but at the end of the day it's still a guy dressed like a clown in a suit trying to mess with a billionaire in a batsuit who fights crime.

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There's a reason other DC fans resent Batman so much at this point.

Is THAT why? Oh, man. I totally get that.