Dan Jurgens Calls Out Fat People on Airplanes

[The Darknight Detective]

What was it he had, before the presidency, that the Kardashians don't? Being famous for being rich, right? Wow, Kim K might just end up our first female prez...

Look, I don't even like the guy, but let's be realistic here. Enough people think he can make any type of deal. Look at all of the businesses he started - why, he can do that to the economy, right? That's the image he projects (created by himself, of course), not one of a game show host. If he were some schmoe heading The Apprentice, he's not president today.

Now back to Dan Jurgens...

[DrNewGod]

The guy was famous as far back as '77 in the NYC metropolitan area (I remember reading about him in the local papers as a 12-year old) and a national name as early as the early '80s. By The Art of the Deal, he had people thinking he was a business genius non pariel and could do anything. Not that I think that, mind you (his business record isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination), but that's the principal reason why he's president. He was a major-league celebrity years before The Apprentice.

When one of the Kardashians is elected, then we can talk about a reality-TV president.

That's anecdotal. Don't establish nada.

What was it he had, before the presidency, that the Kardashians don't? Being famous for being rich, right? Wow, Kim K might just end up our first female prez...

Just puked in my mouth. Especially since it sounds less crazy than it did two years ago.

[The Darknight Detective]

That's anecdotal. Don't establish nada.

Anecdotal? It's verifiable history. When were you born, if you don't mind my asking?

[DrNewGod]

Anecdotal? It's verifiable history. When were you born, if you don't mind my asking?

Before Nixon's election. "Anecdotal" does not mean "false" or even "suspect." But it does mean it's not viable as a causal indicator.

Your initial comment suggested that Trump's pre-TV brand was sufficient to establish himself as a presidential contender. it's not an utterly ludicrous opinion, especially (as I acknowledged) in the wild environment of 2016. But there is no way to measure the impact of the brand he had pre-TV versus that of the brand he had in 2015-16 with an audience considering presidential candidates (unless you have a survey collected in the late-80s or early 90's on the subject). So, the evidence you offer is anecdotal, and the causal relationship you pose based on it is specious.

[The Darknight Detective]

Before Nixon's election. "Anecdotal" does not mean "false" or even "suspect." But it does mean it's not viable as a causal indicator.

Your initial comment suggested that Trump's pre-TV brand was sufficient to establish himself as a presidential contender. it's not an utterly ludicrous opinion, especially (as I acknowledged) in the wild environment of 2016. But there is no way to measure the impact of the brand he had pre-TV versus that of the brand he had in 2015-16 with an audience considering presidential candidates (unless you have a survey collected in the late-80s or early 90's on the subject). So, the evidence you offer is anecdotal, and the causal relationship you pose based on it is specious.

All I'm saying is, as far back as the '80s, if you asked someone to name a billionaire businessman, most people would have named Donald Trump first. Is it anecdotal? It's as much as saying Michael Jackson was a huge celebrity during that same era, which is equally true. It sure seemed like The Donald's name was all over the place, again, before the TV show. But maybe I'm wrong and he's just like Honey Boo Boo.

BTW, I can't stand reality programming.

[Iron Maiden]

Anecdotal? It's verifiable history. When were you born, if you don't mind my asking?

I kind of agree that Trump's reputation was kind of anecdotal. I can't recall him being covered much in the Chicago papers. The only times I'd see stories about him was when he had the sleazy breakup stories in the Enquirer and Marla Maples show up at a skiing vacation along with his then - wife Ivana.

[ed2962]

That's anecdotal. Don't establish nada.

Just puked in my mouth. Especially since it sounds less crazy than it did two years ago.

Hey, they tried to get Oprah to consider running a couple of months ago. Oprah fortunately has more sense than some folks.


Some years back the local GOP tried to get Mike Ditka to run for Governor of Illinois.

[Malvolio]

It was probably sometime in the 1980s that the name "Trump" replaced "Rockefeller" as shorthand for a generic rich person. That said, what I don't get are the people who lived in NYC in the 1980s and 1990s and still support Trump. They should know first-hand what a con artist he is, yet they still think "He's a successful businessman, so he should be able to run the country."

[The Darknight Detective]

It was probably sometime in the 1980s that the name "Trump" replaced "Rockefeller" as shorthand for a generic rich person. That said, what I don't get are the people who lived in NYC in the 1980s and 1990s and still support Trump. They should know first-hand what a con artist he is, yet they still think "He's a successful businessman, so he should be able to run the country."

I don't disagree with anything you said. Trump is the greatest self-promoter of my lifetime, bar none.

[Iron Maiden]

It was probably sometime in the 1980s that the name "Trump" replaced "Rockefeller" as shorthand for a generic rich person. That said, what I don't get are the people who lived in NYC in the 1980s and 1990s and still support Trump. They should know first-hand what a con artist he is, yet they still think "He's a successful businessman, so he should be able to run the country."

Hillary stomped in the voting in NYC and won New York State. They know him and remember him. New Jersey too. Remember, he's known to have swindled a lot of local contractors that worked on his projects, particularly the casinos in New Jersey.

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

I think this shows once again that twitter is a platform for people’s id to expose itself.

[The Darknight Detective]

I think this shows once again that twitter is a platform for people’s id to expose itself.

These sites should have a popup that first says "Are you sure you want to post this?" and then another saying "Are you really, really sure you want to post this?"

[WestPhillyPunisher]

These sites should have a popup that first says "Are you sure you want to post this?" and then another saying "Are you really, really sure you want to post this?"

In Jurgens’ case, that wouldn’t have helped as he was hellbent on whining. How’s that old saying go: it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

[The Darknight Detective]

In Jurgens’ case, that wouldn’t have helped as he was hellbent on whining. How’s that old saying go: it’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Yep. He should have known this would not have been received well.

[Malvolio]

Hillary stomped in the voting in NYC and won New York State. They know him and remember him. New Jersey too. Remember, he's known to have swindled a lot of local contractors that worked on his projects, particularly the casinos in New Jersey.

Oh, no doubt. Trump lost New York "bigly." But there's still a significant number of New Yorkers who voted for him. That's what I don't get.