Who is your D&D Style Team?

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

Watched something interesting and thought I would bring it here.

Using any fictional person, pick a team to accompany you into Fantasy world that fills the following requirements in D&D Terms: Fighter, Mage, Tank, Rogue, and Cleric.

(I realize Tank is not a D&D class but more a type, but that was the example used and I’m sticking with it).

Try to keep them from one universe if you can. Or just make one from one and another from multiple.

Or just have fun with it.


My Example:

Rogue: Cassandra Cain
Mage: Zatanna
Fighter: Black Canary
Tank: Thunder
Cleric: Dr. Light (Kimiyo Hoshi)

I’ll admit, I could play and switch Zatanna and Hoshi around and both would work well there.


So, who’s your team?

Bonus: Fill out the rest of the D&D Charcater Classes/Types.

[The MunchKING]

Watched something interesting and thought I would bring it here.

Using any fictional person, pick a team to accompany you into Fantasy world that fills the following requirements in D&D Terms: Fighter, Mage, Tank, Rogue, and Cleric.

Try to keep them from one universe if you can.

Well THAT'S easy; Sabin, Terra, Cyan, Locke, and Celes.

Freyla, Vivi, Stiener, Zidane, and Dagger

Fighter, Black Mage, Fighter, Thief, White Mage (Or after Bahamuet versions)

etc.


Assuming you just want them for their party roles. If you want me to match more general flavor that might be a bit trickier. (Like making my "Cleric" religious figures)

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

Well THAT'S easy; Sabin, Terra, Cyan, Locke, and Celes.

Freyla, Vivi, Stiener, Zidane, and Dagger

Fighter, Black Mage, Fighter, Thief, White Mage (Or after Bahamuet versions)

etc.


Assuming you just want them for their party roles. If you want me to match more general flavor that might be a bit trickier. (Like making my "Cleric" religious figures)

Either or.

[Carabas]

Aren't fighters and tanks usually the same?

There is no character class called Tank.

[Cleric of Hell’s Brigade]

Aren't fighters and tanks usually the same?

There is no character class called Tank.

True, that was just what Geek & Sundry had it listed as in their example. Tank isn’t a character class (aside from Barbarian maybe), but more a type.

Forgive me.

[Carabas]

Thinking about it, it's two seperate things.

Character classes are the roles you play in the story. Sneaky thief, arrogant mage, badass warrior...

Things like tank, controller, DPS, healer... those are just what you do in combat.

The Fighter who aggros everything and tries to keep the enemy focused on him is a tank.
The Fighter who doesn't care about that at all but does have ludicrous strength and # of attacks and whatnot is a DPS melee character.

The Mage that is standing there turning everthing he sees into barbeque with fireballs is DPS.
The other Mage who is slowing enemies, charming them, stunning them... is a controller.

I find classes to be archaic.
And tanks, DPS... is something from MMORPGs and should have stayed there.

[Noldere]

I find classes to be archaic.

D&D must feel really ancient to you, then.

And tanks, DPS... is something from MMORPGs and should have stayed there.

Nah, it has its uses in other places.

[Carabas]

D&D must feel really ancient to you, then.

It does, yes. Because it really is. Playing Exalted 3rd edition and West End Games Star Wars at the moment.

[Captain Morgan]

Watched something interesting and thought I would bring it here.

Using any fictional person, pick a team to accompany you into Fantasy world that fills the following requirements in D&D Terms: Fighter, Mage, Tank, Rogue, and Cleric.

(I realize Tank is not a D&D class but more a type, but that was the example used and I’m sticking with it).

Try to keep them from one universe if you can. Or just make one from one and another from multiple.

Or just have fun with it.


My Example:

Rogue: Cassandra Cain
Mage: Zatanna
Fighter: Black Canary
Tank: Thunder
Cleric: Dr. Light (Kimiyo Hoshi)

I’ll admit, I could play and switch Zatanna and Hoshi around and both would work well there.


So, who’s your team?

Bonus: Fill out the rest of the D&D Charcater Classes/Types.

I feel like Cass is the fighter and Canary is the Rogue. At least, in relation to each other. Cass is the definition of min maxed for combat; she has dumped her intelligence and charisma so low she can't read and can barely speak. She's maxed out her stealth skill, but has nothing else left really. Canary isn't as optimized a fighter but is much more well rounded, putting her in a better place to represent the skill monkey status of the rogue.

Really, Cass is probably a monk, given her lack of armor and weapons. And perception and sense motive are both wisdom based skills, which would be the closest things for her body reading. But it amounts to the same thing as a primary martial striker.

I feel like cleric is a hard role to properly fill in comics. Healing powers simply aren't that prevalent in the medium. There's a decent amount of divine magic users though.

[Stigmazilla]

I feel like Cass is the fighter and Canary is the Rogue. At least, in relation to each other. Cass is the definition of min maxed for combat; she has dumped her intelligence and charisma so low she can't read and can barely speak. She's maxed out her stealth skill, but has nothing else left really. Canary isn't as optimized a fighter but is much more well rounded, putting her in a better place to represent the skill monkey status of the rogue.

Really, Cass is probably a monk, given her lack of armor and weapons. And perception and sense motive are both wisdom based skills, which would be the closest things for her body reading. But it amounts to the same thing as a primary martial striker.

I feel like cleric is a hard role to properly fill in comics. Healing powers simply aren't that prevalent in the medium. There's a decent amount of divine magic users though.

Thor could be a cleric

[Captain Morgan]

Thor could be a cleric

Yeah, and Wonder Woman too.

Edit: Diana might be a paladin, actually.

[Carabas]

Thor could be a cleric

"I pray to myself and then grant myself lightning powers. Stark keeps complaining I'm off my meds again."

[BitVyper]

Can I just use the fifteenth level Pathfinder group I'm in?

Tank: Lucinda Belmont (Me!) Whip reach fighter. Total area lockdown with an effective radius of 45 feet when she's in max range mode. Also has a pet wyvern.
Rogue/DPS: Kamui Izuna Nagi, kumiho Unrogue/Slayer with vulpine pounce and cornugon smash/shatter defenses so she can just rip around the battlefield opening up cans of big damage and debuffs with a katana. Has a pet imp named Neezil.
Mage: Uttama Poornata, the slightly racist elven arcanist. I don't have to explain much here. Does wizard things.
Ranger: Quattro Bajeena (yes), zen archer who may actually be Char Aznable
Cleric: Izuna's wands of cure light wounds

For a more serious, answer, lets see here, rolling with the assumption that these guys all sort of get put on an even videogame-type playing field where their actual relative power levels don't matter much...

Tank: Guts. I can actually stat out pretty much everything he does, and I appreciate his build. He will be far more effective once I get him a set of level appropriate gear to complement his armour and sword. Cleave/Vital Strike via Cleaving Smash makes him pretty ideal for wading into tons and tons of guys and holding attention.
Rogue/Striker: **** it, I'm taking Ranma. Umisenken stands in for the majority of rogue abilities, and he's pretty effective as a striker too. May actually develop a good relationship with Guts.
Cleric: Raja from Phantasy Star IV. Because he's pretty much the best cleric in anything. Also puns.
Fighter: Katt from Breath of Fire 2, because she's just damn fantastic. Obviously shipping her and Ranma.
Mage: Ainz Ooal Gown. Because I like winning.

[BitVyper]

And tanks, DPS... is something from MMORPGs and should have stayed there.

DPR and tanking have been a thing since first edition D&D. MMOs just gave them names and codified them. The rest is just that as systems gained complexity, players found more ways to be good at those things, and skewed further into them (I find you get better group dynamics this way anyhow). Really, tanking and DPR are about the most basic roles, and were around before a lot of the stuff that makes your modern controller/healer/thief function existed.

Classless systems are alright. Even Exalted has some broad categories it sorts characters into for suggesting particular abilities though. And when you get down to it, while it doesn't pick your abilities for you, it nudges you pretty hard toward them. If your dawn isn't good at hitting things, they aren't much of a dawn, even from a strictly RP perspective, because the second breath is also hitting you with fragments of the collected memories and skills of some of history's finest warriors.

[Carabas]

DPR and tanking have been a thing since first edition D&D.

A Tank is not just an armoured goofball with a crapton of hit points.
A Tank is a character that has the means of not dying in melee and, crucially, has a way of focusing enemy attention on himself. It's that last bit that makes it a Tank, and D&D never had that before 4th edition. And hasn't really had it after 4th edition either.

Even Exalted has some broad categories it sorts characters into for suggesting particular abilities though.

It largely falls into 'over the top DPS', 'massively over the top DPS', and 'just not really into the whole combat thing but I can literally kill them with a love poem' weirdos.

If your dawn isn't good at hitting things, they aren't much of a dawn, even from a strictly RP perspective, because the second breath is also hitting you with fragments of the collected memories and skills of some of history's finest warriors.

It's Exalted. You have to work hard at not being good at hitting things. The most basic combat Charms make you disgustingly good at hitting things, and it just gets worse once you get beyond the basics.

If your character concept isn't based around "I just totally suck in combat", you can kill armies by yourself, Dawn or not.