What about people who want to read a Donny Cates work?
What about people who want to read a Donny Cates work?
Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
Thomas More - A Man for All Seasons
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At a certain point it seems like looking for every excuse under the sun to explain the failure of the Inhumans push other than "Maybe there just wasn't all that much interest in the Inhumans." It doesn't help that the project the entire push was ultimately leading to is probably gonna go down as one of Marvel's notorious embarrassments.
That's your opinion on the stories and art. I don't know any comic store owners who don't try their very best to move product. I just appreciate an honest salesperson is all, and a store owner can be that when they wave customers off bad product. I've never heard of a comic store owner trying to sabotage a product. It's against their own interests to do that.
Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
Thomas More - A Man for All Seasons
Interested in reading Daredevil? Not sure what to read next? Why not check out the Daredevil Book Club for some ideas?
I can because many shop owners are fanboys with their own prejudices. I certainly don't think it's the majority of cases, but I'm not shocked by it happening. I seem to recall people who experienced it actually posting here about it. Sorry that you find it hard to believe.
Matt Murdock's cooler twin brother
I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
Thomas More - A Man for All Seasons
Interested in reading Daredevil? Not sure what to read next? Why not check out the Daredevil Book Club for some ideas?
I guess I'm the only one who likes Black Bolt and family.... War of kings was awesome.
Basically. I don't know why it's so hard to swallow. Instead of blaming "disgruntled" X-Fans and the, apparently, rampant problem of CB store owners who are on a national trashing spree, for the failure of the Inhumans, why not blame the fans of other franchises (like the Avengers, FF, GotG, etc.) who, also, weren't here for the Inhumans? I would think that with the amount of visibility Marvel tried to give the Inhumans in the past few years, the resounding indifference from non-X-Fans is the bigger problem. It's all very...
There are literally posters on these boards who have posted long posts in these threads about how the hate the Inhumans and want their comics to fail while also admitting they are store owners. I can think of literally 3 posters who admit this.
I personally stopped shopping at my local comic store for being made fun of for buying Inhumans books by the store owner (who shockingly was a big x-men fan). Several other posters on this forum had the same thing happen, it's not a rumour there are numerous people on this forum who literally experienced it.
Like Mike_Murdock said this isn't a shock, because as much as these store owners are struggling, they are often also incredibly passionate comic readers with very strong biases.
I've also read many posts on these very forums where people said they considered reading Inhumans books, but decided not to after seeing the negative reactions online.
It's more bizarre that you are surprised the toxic reaction of fans effected sales. Negative feedback/word of mouth effects sales in every industry, why would it be different in comics? Every single article CBR, Comicbook, etc post about the Inhumans bashes them. Every forum is filled with posts hating them. Of course this will dissuade neutral parties from buying. No one questions that negative word of mouth and press has hurt the profits of DCEU movies. Yet when it comes to Inhumans you all jump through hoops to deny it. This is literally basic business 101.
Current Pull: Lazarus, The Realm, Seven to Eternity, Aquaman, Flash, Justice League Dark, Justice League Odyssey, Sideways, Black Panther, Captain America, Daredevil, Death of the Inhumans.
Future Pull: Killmonger.
I think the real issue is Marvel attempted to replace the X-Men and mutants with Inhumans, which we the fans rejected, because it made no sense.
The older Inhuman series, going back to vol. 1 in the '70s, had their fans, including me. Many of their Fantastic Four guest appearances were great. The Jenkins and Lee series was great and I loved the Pacheco-Marín-Ladrönn series. I still go back to stare at that art! Their appearances in Abnett-Lanings cosmic Marvel were sometimes great and effective and sometimes not, but overall were enjoyable. The last interesting thing to happen with them was what Hickman did in FF with them, although I didn't enjoy it at all, but it was interesting -- alien Inhumans!
And then, Perlmutter and Marvel blew it! Word was given from on high that they would be an MCU property, whether Feige wanted it or not, and the publishing arm was forced into making them monetized mutant replacements. The problem is, that's not who the Inhumans are. And forcing Inhumans into everywhere and really keeping them Earthbound ruined the best things about them, and only exacerbated their bad points, like their really ethically questionable systems of governance, monarchy and enslavement. That's a lot of the problem in a nutshell. Mutants work to a degree because they're presented as persecuted minorities. The Inhumans are by and large an alien nation, in every sense of those words, which at times acts in quite ethically challenged ways. It was fine when they were kept to themselves and the royals teamed up with Earth heroes to deal with their mad brother or some Kree threat. It doesn't really work when they unleash poison gas clouds on humanity. Then, the worst of all — their TV series with an IMAX premiere: Good gravy was that awful! Perlmutter, Marvel publishing and Marvel TV foisted this garbage on us. They wrecked characters we liked in the interests of trying to artificially replace mutants, instead of doing the wiser thing of finding a property that worked on its own merits, instead of having a passing resemblance to another property. Thank God Disney-Marvel is likely to get the X-Men back. I'm hopeful the Inhumans can be restored to an interesting little corner of Marvel again, instead of a failed star property.
Last edited by Brian B; 04-04-2018 at 06:51 AM.
this .....
the attempt to "pin" what happened to the inhuman franchise on cb shop owners or a (small) portion of the overall marvel audience is .. disturbing .. to say the least.
not only does it defy logic or reason, but from a pure mathematics perspective ..
let's wait and see if "death of" fares any better before throwing out wild accusations
I'm going to go ahead and say it. The Inhumans are a more compelling group than whatever the X-Men have become. 40 years later, and not much has changed with that lot. Phoenix, Logan, Mutant-phobia, etc, etc.
I still don't understand how the MU rationalizes discriminating the X-Men in a world of super-powered beings. Doesn't make a lot of sense all things considered.