Insomniac's Spider-Man for PS4 releases on September 7th

[SuperiorIronman]

Taking a break for a moment, and so far I keep telling myself "this is the dumbest ****", I nearly lost it at that Deus Ex laughing as much as I did. It's like on a narrative level they've just given up. It's like it's more fun than Turf Wars, but dumber than the rest of the game. Kind of like a kid playing with toys.

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Is Black Cat made of Adamantium, how the Hell is she alive?

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[Frontier]

Taking a break for a moment, and so far I keep telling myself "this is the dumbest ****", I nearly lost it at that Deus Ex laughing as much as I did. It's like on a narrative level they've just given up. It's like it's more fun than Turf Wars, but dumber than the rest of the game. Kind of like a kid playing with toys.

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Is Black Cat made of Adamantium, how the Hell is she alive?

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She knew Hammerhead was going to blow up her penthouse because she went in anyways even after Peter had told her about it, so she must have rigged it somehow to avoid the blast.

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[SuperiorIronman]

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She knew Hammerhead was going to blow up her penthouse because she went in anyways even after Peter had told her about it, so she must have rigged it somehow to avoid the blast.

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I don't know, that speaks of plot-convenience. All and all I would just appreciate the writers trying a little harder.

-A few Spider-sense glitches again (as in not triggering)
-The final boss fight isn't what I would call intuitive but it does beat the Turf Wars boss fight

Outside of that the narrative to me just kind of gave up.
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-Black Cat is suddenly alive, showing up out of nowhere and leaving just as quickly to give Spider-man Hammerhead's weakness -Yuri is nowhere to be seen but likely hanging out in side-mission land meaning that Wraith may be left as an afterthought -Mary Jane has nothing to do and thus shes off to Symkaria -Silver Sable starts as a laughable setup for a boss-fight and then she's our kind of pal throughout the game. Also likely causing one Hell of an international incident as she takes her incredibly loud and explosive jet through the streets of New York shooting at a van. -The justification for the suit is prototype armors and super serums in conjunction with Oscorp? Alright, so why doesn't Harry have one of these? In-fact if they are so useful and only took a few more days to make operational, it's weird we never see them in the vanilla game. -Miles finally getting to do something but it's the final cutscene I feel like this DLC just gave up on the narrative so it tried to tie up everything it could, no matter how many leaps in logic we have to make to do it. It's a bit disappointing that this is how it ends up considering how good the ending of the main-game is. I feel like there is a strong story in here but it just gets buried under trying to make a mystery, poor game design, and what is now the narrative just fumbling over itself to the finish.

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But I don't hate it, I just hate Turf Wars. So I guess the moral of the story is that if you can't tell a tight story nor keep the tone between releases, I guess open the toy box? B+

[Lukmendes]

Taking a break for a moment, and so far I keep telling myself "this is the dumbest ****", I nearly lost it at that Deus Ex laughing as much as I did. It's like on a narrative level they've just given up. It's like it's more fun than Turf Wars, but dumber than the rest of the game. Kind of like a kid playing with toys.

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Is Black Cat made of Adamantium, how the Hell is she alive?

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A bit before her apartment is exploded, you can see white gas, that is Hollywood **** for teleportation lol

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Anyways, my thoughts about the 3 DLCs:

The Heist:

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The story for it is alright with the plot of Hammerhead deciding to get those hard drives and Felicia playing him and Spidey, I don't really like her manipulating Spidey with the kid thing however, but yeah. As for the additions, thankfuly they didn't add too many combat types of sub quests, in the main game they're basicaly "You'll now do this same thing over there", Screwball's challenges are worse versions of Taskmaster's since they have the photobombs and, well, they're annoying, and the web challenge one is the most annoying kind, the "Detective Mackey" one, well, it should give something besides XP, but for the story purpose, it was good since the reveal that he was Walter Hardy surprised me.

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Turf Wars:

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For a story called "Turf Wars", there's not much of it, Hammerhead is dominating the whole thing, and I don't really see why he decided to target Yuri in particular, since he kept talking about playing long term, and I don't see how mentaly torturing a cop would help, in fact, it almost got him killed... This is the best one story-wise though in spite of this though. As for the sub quests, it adds the worst crime type, that one being to escort witnesses, you follow a car for like a minute then you fight some guys, it's just boring and I just ignored it everytime it showed up after the second time, as for the Screwball stuff, they removed the EMP stuff, which is good, and added the stealth type of sub quest, which is also good since this one is better than Taskmaster's, since it's a bit more difficult and the photobombs actualy work here since they aren't random, and it's in a slower paced type of challenge, the web challenge is the only one that doesn't sub in this one

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Silver Lining:

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This one has the worst story, Silver Sable is part of the reason, she was already the most poorly written of the main characters in the main game, since from one minute to the next she decided to trust Spidey with saving Norman and even helped to bring him to FEAST center for him to get treatment, and then she goes back to Symkaria because she was so moved by him since he kept trying to save Norman, but here? She's back to being a bitch and calling Spidey a failure hero, like seriously? Make up your mind... Hammerhead becoming pretty much Silver Mane is the other reason why it's the worst one story-wise, it also doesn't make much sense why he wanted to capture Sable too since he already had all that tech just fine, unless he wanted to have more and the torture was about forcing her to bring more, but I don't remember that being said, Felicia returning to try to fix a bit of the mess she created was cool, she could apologize but, guess not lol, MJ just going to Symkaria and then that not doing anything more for the story was lame. That said though, I had more fun with the side quests in this one, even Screwballs' combat challenges have more fixed photobombs, making them actualy kinda fun to try to get, the web challenge though, it looks broken as of right now (Version 1.13), since photobombs may not show up after the first one, I think the cause of the glitch is that if you throw too many enemies in an area that has the photobombs they just won't show up anymore, since I noticed an increase of photobombs once I stopped throwing them at those specific walls when there weren't photobombs, that said, with this glitch it's the worst web challenge, without it, it's just a bit worst than the Turf Wars one, which wasn't really good either, just good enough, the Yuri side quest had a cool story, and I was expecting to have a boss fight with her but like Taskmaster got one but... Nothing, she just shows that she killed the guy then the game leaves a sequel hook for the next game or whatever.

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Overall:

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The DLCs were fun enough, honestly, the combat challenges feel better to play than the main game's, I think it's because they put more enemy types around, which helps to keep the combat more frenetic, the gatling gun brutes are a nice addition, though they could be beaten by being webbed down too... For whatever reason you have less options in the fast travel, can't even use Harry's research stations, unless you find a train station and use it there, though maybe that was patched. Screwballs' challenges are a step down from Taskmaster's with the photobomb gimmick, though again, Stealth one was the improved one, I'm also honestly disapointed they didn't add any newer suit powers or suit mods, but I guess they wanted to make the DLC not feel mandatory with new mechanic additions, but it makes getting all of those extra resources pointless, besides, they could always just make suit mods be added alongside the City that never sleeps DLC without needing it... Oh well, it's fun enough to consider buying, but they could've gotten more creative, and not making what I'll call "Silver Hammerhead" happen 'cause, seriously now lol.

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[Frontier]

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A bit before her apartment is exploded, you can see white gas, that is Hollywood **** for teleportation lol

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Anyways, my thoughts about the 3 DLCs:

The Heist:

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The story for it is alright with the plot of Hammerhead deciding to get those hard drives and Felicia playing him and Spidey, I don't really like her manipulating Spidey with the kid thing however, but yeah. As for the additions, thankfuly they didn't add too many combat types of sub quests, in the main game they're basicaly "You'll now do this same thing over there", Screwball's challenges are worse versions of Taskmaster's since they have the photobombs and, well, they're annoying, and the web challenge one is the most annoying kind, the "Detective Mackey" one, well, it should give something besides XP, but for the story purpose, it was good since the reveal that he was Walter Hardy surprised me.

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Turf Wars:

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For a story called "Turf Wars", there's not much of it, Hammerhead is dominating the whole thing, and I don't really see why he decided to target Yuri in particular, since he kept talking about playing long term, and I don't see how mentaly torturing a cop would help, in fact, it almost got him killed... This is the best one story-wise though in spite of this though. As for the sub quests, it adds the worst crime type, that one being to escort witnesses, you follow a car for like a minute then you fight some guys, it's just boring and I just ignored it everytime it showed up after the second time, as for the Screwball stuff, they removed the EMP stuff, which is good, and added the stealth type of sub quest, which is also good since this one is better than Taskmaster's, since it's a bit more difficult and the photobombs actualy work here since they aren't random, and it's in a slower paced type of challenge, the web challenge is the only one that doesn't sub in this one

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Silver Lining:

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This one has the worst story, Silver Sable is part of the reason, she was already the most poorly written of the main characters in the main game, since from one minute to the next she decided to trust Spidey with saving Norman and even helped to bring him to FEAST center for him to get treatment, and then she goes back to Symkaria because she was so moved by him since he kept trying to save Norman, but here? She's back to being a bitch and calling Spidey a failure hero, like seriously? Make up your mind... Hammerhead becoming pretty much Silver Mane is the other reason why it's the worst one story-wise, it also doesn't make much sense why he wanted to capture Sable too since he already had all that tech just fine, unless he wanted to have more and the torture was about forcing her to bring more, but I don't remember that being said, Felicia returning to try to fix a bit of the mess she created was cool, she could apologize but, guess not lol, MJ just going to Symkaria and then that not doing anything more for the story was lame. That said though, I had more fun with the side quests in this one, even Screwballs' combat challenges have more fixed photobombs, making them actualy kinda fun to try to get, the web challenge though, it looks broken as of right now (Version 1.13), since photobombs may not show up after the first one, I think the cause of the glitch is that if you throw too many enemies in an area that has the photobombs they just won't show up anymore, since I noticed an increase of photobombs once I stopped throwing them at those specific walls when there weren't photobombs, that said, with this glitch it's the worst web challenge, without it, it's just a bit worst than the Turf Wars one, which wasn't really good either, just good enough, the Yuri side quest had a cool story, and I was expecting to have a boss fight with her but like Taskmaster got one but... Nothing, she just shows that she killed the guy then the game leaves a sequel hook for the next game or whatever.

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Overall:

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The DLCs were fun enough, honestly, the combat challenges feel better to play than the main game's, I think it's because they put more enemy types around, which helps to keep the combat more frenetic, the gatling gun brutes are a nice addition, though they could be beaten by being webbed down too... For whatever reason you have less options in the fast travel, can't even use Harry's research stations, unless you find a train station and use it there, though maybe that was patched. Screwballs' challenges are a step down from Taskmaster's with the photobomb gimmick, though again, Stealth one was the improved one, I'm also honestly disapointed they didn't add any newer suit powers or suit mods, but I guess they wanted to make the DLC not feel mandatory with new mechanic additions, but it makes getting all of those extra resources pointless, besides, they could always just make suit mods be added alongside the City that never sleeps DLC without needing it... Oh well, it's fun enough to consider buying, but they could've gotten more creative, and not making what I'll call "Silver Hammerhead" happen 'cause, seriously now lol.

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Turf Wars was honestly the weakest for me storywise. Like, they had a lot of meat and major plot points (Yuri going off the rails, Hammerhead's rise, the gang war, etc.) but it just felt like they either rushed through or left a lot of it underdeveloped. I guess you can write-off Sable being antagonistic toward Spider-Man again because of the stress of the civil war in Symkaria and blaming Spider-Man for Hammerhead getting access to her Sable Tech. I think I remember one of Hammerhead's thugs, or Hammerhead himself in one of the voice recordings in his base, mentioning that he was planning to torture the location of more tech out of Sable I've seen a lot of people comment that they would've preferred more Taskmaster to more Screwball.

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[Lukmendes]

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Turf Wars was honestly the weakest for me storywise. Like, they had a lot of meat and major plot points (Yuri going off the rails, Hammerhead's rise, the gang war, etc.) but it just felt like they either rushed through or left a lot of it underdeveloped. I guess you can write-off Sable being antagonistic toward Spider-Man again because of the stress of the civil war in Symkaria and blaming Spider-Man for Hammerhead getting access to her Sable Tech. I think I remember one of Hammerhead's thugs, or Hammerhead himself in one of the voice recordings in his base, mentioning that he was planning to torture the location of more tech out of Sable I've seen a lot of people comment that they would've preferred more Taskmaster to more Screwball.

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Well I might've overrated Turf Wars a bit, thing is that I can't really give The Heist much credit since it's just building up for Turf Wars and Silver Lining, and I don't really like this kind of thing, meanwhile, Silver Lining just falls short too much, so Turf Wars is at the top of the three story-wise, even though none are really impressive, and I agree with Turf Wars being under developed since Yuri's downfall development is largely off screen, the gang war itself is too one sided (Understandable since Hammerhead had Sable tech, but the others could've joined forces to even the odds, or just have anything besides being just "Hammerhead's opponents"), and it's never made clear why the hell Hammerhead chose to keep tormenting Yuri so much, perhaps it was because he was obssessed with respect, but he should've focused on Spidey instead... And yeah, that could be justified, and the game is certainly constantly pointing in that direction, and Spidey even once mentions that she was supposed to be one of the "good guys", so they were keeping what Sable said at the end of the main game in mind, but that's it, nothing in her behavior shows that she trusted Spidey at any point before, and her starting to trust him again feels a lot more like it was supposed to happen like she never trusted him to begin with, so her behavior just looks odd in comparison to what came before. Yeah, I replayed the DLC itself and saw that info, it can look odd for him to want anything from Sable since Oscorp was making much more powerful tech (Oscorp tech is what turned him into Silver Hammerhead to begin with, also spread the Project Olympus around), but one of the files shows that Hammerhead specificaly wanted that invisible ship that had other jets on it, it's actualy why he was even stopping the supplies from reaching Symkaria, just to bring Sable to New York to get that ship, so that's my goof, which is odd since I had finished the DLC just a few hours before writing that post lol. Well, with the way they made Screwball's challenges, they might as well have brought him back, removing photobombs would be an improvement lol, but I guess it could end up undermining him, not that Screwball couldn't work, but again, they were lazy with the challenges, and the one original thing they made with them, the Web challenges, was okay at best, and obnoxious at worse. Another thing I forgot to mention, once you find the body of that guy Yuri killed, there are "lines" around the place, if you look at the end of each one, there's a picture of someone, those people being the guy's victims, it's an interesting detail, still wish Yuri could've been confronted in a way, maybe escape or be arrested but still leaving a cliffhanger, instead of getting just a cliffhanger... Oh and, another reason why Silver Hammerhead was dumb is because it doesn't solve his damn problem, Hammerhead almost got killed by being shot in the face, so he decides to make most of his body robotic, and keep the head exposed still? Without even a helmet? And then for whatever reason they needed to make that laser to be able to punch his head when Spidey himself could do it just fine before? It'd be better if Felicia's info was the weakness of Silver Hammerhead's robotic body (Hell, the info she gives could even be on how to disable that energy armor he can put around himself to begin with), but no, they went for a route that makes Hammerhead look like a moron, the info Felicia gives is partialy dumb (Since she gives the info of what the plate of his head is made of and the location of Hammerhead's bases) and ultimately he's defeated by the jet being thrown at him...

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[John Ossie]

I love this game!!!!!!!

[Kevinroc]

I bought the DLC. I would have loved it if it were on sale on its own.

[John Ossie]

I've got the DLC but I've been playing the main game, well just basically swinging around New York and having fun for the most part

[SuperiorIronman]

Anybody else finding the DLC laughably stupid in hindsight? Because outside of Turf Wars where they screwed up the enemy formations, the narrative is all sorts of dumb. I'll give Silver lining the benefit of having stronger gameplay, but someone screwed up on the narrative.

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-Hammerhead wants these drives to get an up on the dons and yet brings on the most untrustworthy thief he can get. -He plant bombs at her place which is also public knowledge apparently and Cat still returns there right at the door within blast range. -The plot-point about Spidey being a dad doesn't make sense because the last time Peter was with Cat they had been partners, and that must have been incredibly brief because a bun in the oven is not subtle especially in a suit like Felicia's. Meaning that if that was the case, Peter was an idiot thinking someone like Felicia would've been trustworthy after maybe a month, Peter being an idiot to even sleep with her, and potentially a cheater if he had been with MJ at the time. Considering we know they had a relationship in the main game that only just ended six months prior, if Felicia slept with Peter during that time frame there wouldn't be a kid. Nor would there be if Peter just took a moment to think about it. In context it doesn't work. It only works assuming it was still early into Peter's career and we know he dated MJ early on. -Spidey has somehow no idea he was speaking to Walter Hardy despite knowing thugs by name on sight and knowing most of the officers and should know about the guy at a precinct he's visited who is "retiring". - Hammerhead despite not being able to get the drives just has Sable gear which blows away the competition anyways meaning his plan B should've just been his Plan A. - Hammerhead has a history with Yuri's family we weren't privy to until the DLC and its off in side-mission land meaning that optional content is now required to make the main plot work. - Said development with Yuri as a result happens off-screen - Project Olympus is for a suit that we found out was for a joint effort with Oscorp to help Symkaria, Sable somehow making a deal despite her being in-game brought on as hired security which brings me to; - Digboys not being funny but more importantly that with them having jetpack deployment and jet carriers, that the diggers are even needed. More importantly how was Osborn going to authorize the usage considering the damage it would do to buildings infrastructure and homes/property? Would've been a great thing for Sable to use when Otto was going after Osborn. - Hammerhead's suit is fucking ridiculous considering he doesn't physically even need it considering what we see in Turf Wars - Hammerhead survives a point blank shot from a Sable rifle revived by of all things a taser. - There is no justification for Sable having a boss-fight with Spider-man -Spider-man if not seeing the jet should be able to hear it coming like in every other shot. - If Hammerhead knew about the boat and had the means to attack it the whole time, why didn't he? - Why does he need Sable at all if he already knows where the gear is? - Hammerhead's justification for the "upgrade" was him getting shot in the head, except he replaced everything but his clearly visible skull - Black Cat not only is somehow alive to save Spider-man from Hammerhead, but she never addresses how, but she also knows how to defeat Hammerhead *here's a hint, shoot him in his clearly exposed head. And she leaves never to be seen again. - Mary Jane feels the need to go help out in Symkaria despite her being present for Spidergeddon meaning it wasn't very long, or someone forgot she was still in New York. - Yuri is still banished off in side-mission land

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Nobody proof-read the plot did they?

[Inversed]

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-The plot-point about Spidey being a dad doesn't make sense because the last time Peter was with Cat they had been partners, and that must have been incredibly brief because a bun in the oven is not subtle especially in a suit like Felicia's. Meaning that if that was the case, Peter was an idiot thinking someone like Felicia would've been trustworthy after maybe a month, Peter being an idiot to even sleep with her, and potentially a cheater if he had been with MJ at the time. Considering we know they had a relationship in the main game that only just ended six months prior, if Felicia slept with Peter during that time frame there wouldn't be a kid. Nor would there be if Peter just took a moment to think about it. In context it doesn't work. It only works assuming it was still early into Peter's career and we know he dated MJ early on. - Mary Jane feels the need to go help out in Symkaria despite her being present for Spidergeddon meaning it wasn't very long, or someone forgot she was still in New York.

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I'm pretty sure its stated that Black Cat and Spider-Man were dating before he and MJ did, and they started dating for about 2 years followed by breaking up 6 months before the start of the game. He also states how Black Cat disappeared at some point after trying to train her to do good, which I assume all must have happened during the time before him and MJ were together, so it's not completely unlikely that her having a child would be possible.

And Spider-Geddon could easily take place after the events of the game but before the start of the DLC, since there's about a month or so gap in-between em.

[CosmicGoji]

I'm pretty sure its stated that Black Cat and Spider-Man were dating before he and MJ did, and they started dating for about 2 years followed by breaking up 6 months before the start of the game. He also states how Black Cat disappeared at some point after trying to train her to do good, which I assume all must have happened during the time before him and MJ were together, so it's not completely unlikely that her having a child would be possible.

Peter started dating Felicia during his early college years. Then at some point during Peter's 6 month break up with MJ, he reunites with Felicia.

[Revolutionary_Jack]

Peter started dating Felicia during his early college years. Then at some point during Peter's 6 month break up with MJ, he reunites with Felicia.

Aunt May during the main game refers to Felicia as Peter's "rebound girl" in an optional conversation. Which is odd if Peter dated Felicia before MJ. Still May does see Mary Jane as Peter's "one" as in the classic era.

[Lukmendes]

Anybody else finding the DLC laughably stupid in hindsight? Because outside of Turf Wars where they screwed up the enemy formations, the narrative is all sorts of dumb. I'll give Silver lining the benefit of having stronger gameplay, but someone screwed up on the narrative.

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-Hammerhead wants these drives to get an up on the dons and yet brings on the most untrustworthy thief he can get. -He plant bombs at her place which is also public knowledge apparently and Cat still returns there right at the door within blast range. -The plot-point about Spidey being a dad doesn't make sense because the last time Peter was with Cat they had been partners, and that must have been incredibly brief because a bun in the oven is not subtle especially in a suit like Felicia's. Meaning that if that was the case, Peter was an idiot thinking someone like Felicia would've been trustworthy after maybe a month, Peter being an idiot to even sleep with her, and potentially a cheater if he had been with MJ at the time. Considering we know they had a relationship in the main game that only just ended six months prior, if Felicia slept with Peter during that time frame there wouldn't be a kid. Nor would there be if Peter just took a moment to think about it. In context it doesn't work. It only works assuming it was still early into Peter's career and we know he dated MJ early on. -Spidey has somehow no idea he was speaking to Walter Hardy despite knowing thugs by name on sight and knowing most of the officers and should know about the guy at a precinct he's visited who is "retiring". - Hammerhead despite not being able to get the drives just has Sable gear which blows away the competition anyways meaning his plan B should've just been his Plan A. - Hammerhead has a history with Yuri's family we weren't privy to until the DLC and its off in side-mission land meaning that optional content is now required to make the main plot work. - Said development with Yuri as a result happens off-screen - Project Olympus is for a suit that we found out was for a joint effort with Oscorp to help Symkaria, Sable somehow making a deal despite her being in-game brought on as hired security which brings me to; - Digboys not being funny but more importantly that with them having jetpack deployment and jet carriers, that the diggers are even needed. More importantly how was Osborn going to authorize the usage considering the damage it would do to buildings infrastructure and homes/property? Would've been a great thing for Sable to use when Otto was going after Osborn. - Hammerhead's suit is fucking ridiculous considering he doesn't physically even need it considering what we see in Turf Wars - Hammerhead survives a point blank shot from a Sable rifle revived by of all things a taser. - There is no justification for Sable having a boss-fight with Spider-man -Spider-man if not seeing the jet should be able to hear it coming like in every other shot. - If Hammerhead knew about the boat and had the means to attack it the whole time, why didn't he? - Why does he need Sable at all if he already knows where the gear is? - Hammerhead's justification for the "upgrade" was him getting shot in the head, except he replaced everything but his clearly visible skull - Black Cat not only is somehow alive to save Spider-man from Hammerhead, but she never addresses how, but she also knows how to defeat Hammerhead *here's a hint, shoot him in his clearly exposed head. And she leaves never to be seen again. - Mary Jane feels the need to go help out in Symkaria despite her being present for Spidergeddon meaning it wasn't very long, or someone forgot she was still in New York. - Yuri is still banished off in side-mission land

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Nobody proof-read the plot did they?

The bombs in Felicia's apartment wasn't exactly common knowledge considering that Hammerhead told his men about it like it was something they didn't know about.

I think the game says that Peter and MJ broke up sometimes before, so he could've just dated Felicia in-between those before the six months long break up. And Peter tries to see the best in people, that does make him naíve, but it's part of the character, Felicia does end up helping him in the end anyways.

Spidey only knows of "current" thugs, since he's surprised when Walter mentions there was a Black Cat before Felicia, and it's never implied he knows even most cops, so him getting played is fair.

Hammerhead clearly wanted to get the economical advantage instead of going for a war straight away, makes sense with him prefering to do long therm plans.

I don't see the issue with Sable being hired and asking for Oscorp to improve their equipment as payment.

Digboys are stupid to use, since it'd damage the city, yeah, but we're talking about the same Norman who allowed Sable to do all of that bullshit in the city to begin with, Norman is not a wise man lol.

The suit is terrible, yeah, and it doesn't even solve his problem since he only got almost killed by Yuri from a shot in the head, which, the Silver Hammerhead **** doesn't solve lol.

Sable is a horribly written character in the main game anyways (Spider-Man! I begrudgingly accepted to work with you! Now 10 seconds later I'll trust you to save Norman!), I honestly wasn't really surprised when she kept that up in the DLC.

Hammerhead only learned where the boat was once it turned visible, something Spidey himself specificaly points out that Hammerhead would arrive soon once it becomes visible.

He didn't know where the gear was, specialy since what he wanted was that boat.

Again, the smoke-screen thing is hollywood teleportation, even Taskmaster does it in gameplay during the battle if you try to run away, and once you beat him he does it in a cutscene too, despite being webbed up, so Felicia's survival ain't that far fetched, and what Felicia did was give him info about what's on Hammerhead's head to be able to be damaged, and tell the location of Hammerhead's bases, which helps Spidey to find Sable since he had no clue where it was.

We don't know how long the time skip between the end of the DLC and Spider-Geddon is, could be even a year, or maybe Spider-Geddon takes place before the DLC happens (There's about 3 months for it to happen after all), though it's probably after since Spider-Otto left a Spider-bot to free Otto.

Yuri stuff is lame yeah.

[gregpersons]

I looked around for another thread on this and couldn't find it, so apologies if this is a duplicate. I just played this over Christmas and thought the story was really well done, if a little bit rushed in the end.

The writing and characterization were both solid -- seemed to be inspired by a mix of Dan Slott & Bendis, a mix of the classic 616 Peter and the Ultimate version, particularly with his relationship with Mary Jane.

I also liked some of the changes to the usual status quo, like Norman Osborn being mayor of New York, Peter as Octavius's lab assistant, J Jonah Jameson as an angry radio host, and Aunt May working at the homeless shelter full-time.

What did you think of the story and characterization?

(Also, isn't it crazy that the Venom suit isn't in the game? It's the most famous alternate suit, Sony just put out a Venom movie, and the character is nowhere in this Game of the Year candidate? I'm sure there's SOME explanation but it's still pretty surprising that they missed that cross-promotion? Same with the Miles Morales suit. Maybe that DLC is coming... ?)