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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiccan View Post
    Are you serious?... I don't even like Lang much but his is obviously the better one here. People often call him out for his porn tracing(rightfully so), but this "well drawn" style is really just fit for fap material art, if it's even your taste for that lol.
    Greg's art was and is controversial, I will still take his art over Gold, Blue and Astonishing. Marvel's current art leaves me cold dearly. I am enjoying Batman (2016) not because of the story but the art is also a state of the art.

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    So... Astonishing really going to be an anthology-type series... good.
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    I think the deal with Land is, for a casual buyer of comics, when they first see his art it looks super awesome like photo realistic style

    It's only people who are aware of the controversies involving tracing from pornography, and who have gotten used to the female facial expressions in particular being wildly inappropriate for the scenes, etc. who hate Land
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    Quote Originally Posted by AbnormallyNormal View Post
    I think the deal with Land is, for a casual buyer of comics, when they first see his art it looks super awesome like photo realistic style

    It's only people who are aware of the controversies involving tracing from pornography, and who have gotten used to the female facial expressions in particular being wildly inappropriate for the scenes, etc. who hate Land
    I think he has been better in the last years, since, say, 2014. His Future Imperfect Secret Wars Tie In, and his Bunn Uncanny, all had acceptable art.
    In 4 chan people were very amused by pics of people getting tattoos of Land Art (his Jean from Endsong seems to be popular)

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    Quote Originally Posted by donpricetag View Post
    So... Astonishing really going to be an anthology-type series... good.
    Is this confirmed? I was under the impression Rosenberg was the new regular writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uebersoldat View Post
    Comic books don't need a checklist to appease certain groups. Just write good stories and let it happen naturally.
    Lol, sure and would this title hit your drop bin at hyperspeed if it was "well written" with a majority black cast? Luckily no X-writers have the genius nor vision to just do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psylurker View Post
    ... fully expect this to last one story-arc before the inevitable X-relaunch.
    6-8 issues would take it to/through the end of year, so yeah, might not do a full 12 like the first run. Been gettin' the sense that MUCH of what's goin' on right now, has a bit of that distinct set-up feel to it, anyway... maybe. Like a lot of it might just be setting the stage in some ways, and putting some solid building blocks in place, for the even more GRAND architecture that'll follow & is still yet to come.

    If true, then I would say things bode well for the likes of AleX, Ali, & Jimmy, as the other two are just more of the usual suspects & seem to always get play.

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    Cast looks awesome me. Havok! Dazzler looking more classic! I am looking forward to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkerforyears View Post
    I think he has been better in the last years, since, say, 2014. His Future Imperfect Secret Wars Tie In, and his Bunn Uncanny, all had acceptable art.
    In 4 chan people were very amused by pics of people getting tattoos of Land Art (his Jean from Endsong seems to be popular)
    His Endsong Jean is iconic, but that's partly because that was the last we've seen of her/the most recent Phoenix/Dark Phoenix for some time... But yeah, at first glance, his art looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkrook View Post
    Lol, sure and would this title hit your drop bin at hyperspeed if it was "well written" with a majority black cast? Luckily no X-writers have the genius nor vision to just do this.
    It would depend on the cast i guess. I wouldn't buy a book just because most of the cast is black or POC. I love Warpath. If he was in a book, there is a good chance I would get it. Why are we making this about race though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbnormallyNormal View Post
    I think the deal with Land is, for a casual buyer of comics, when they first see his art it looks super awesome like photo realistic style

    It's only people who are aware of the controversies involving tracing from pornography, and who have gotten used to the female facial expressions in particular being wildly inappropriate for the scenes, etc. who hate Land
    Exactly, what I experienced. Before I got my hands on the entire Uncanny vol.1 run, I used to read the 500+ 3 page previews on the Marvel app and I thought the art and story were great. Probably why I enjoy Fraction's run so much - I built up a positive feeling to all. Though learning of his blatant copying of previous work, and traces of porn - it's soured my view of his work a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Thor13 View Post
    • ... Whilst I'm happy all involved characters get a role, none of them are favorites of mine. ... I'll be devastated if this leaves Psylocke, Angel, Bishop and/or Mystique in limbo, so I hope they graduate to other titles.
    • ... I love Ali's look. ... and... Warpath looks great- I always loved his black & red uniform.
    • Regarding the secret member... Emma Frost... Wolverine?... A repowered Dani Moonstar?


    ... Gold team... being disassembled... poised to leave... only Kitty & Rachel. ... bring in Rogue, Iceman, Magik, Magma, Armor... the new line-up could then be made up of those individuals. But there are... more... X-Men out there that aren't currently attached to an X-Title (Jubilee, Cannonball, Sunspot or Northstar for example) It’s worth mentioning that Dust supposedly has a big role in one of the X-Books, so perhaps she’ll be in Gold or Astonishing… Above all though... change... the creative team. Guggenheim... stories are cliché and uninspired. The artists have been a mixed bag... I'm ready for CHANGE.

    Blue has brought together a great set of characters, and I love that Magneto and Polaris have been given the opportunity to grow away from the 'prime' X-Men and pursue their own agendas. Danger... Daken... beyond excited for Elixir and the Acolytes... be stoked if Quicksilver, Emma Frost... Frenzy, Sunfire... were to join on a full-time basis too...


    ... Astonishing...

    No telepaths, teleporters or flyers, and they've got two blasters and three bruisers instead. I wonder if the secret member will fill the void, or whether they’ll remain a somewhat grounded team, limited in their capabilities.
    I believe it's been said that Psylocke & Bishop, at least, will have a home after Astonishing V1. I'm lovin' EVERYthing 'bout Ali & Jimmy in this book, and would be in a hype-induced state of shock, if Dani Moonstar were the mystery member!

    It does seem that Gold's in need of polishing, no doubt. Iceman, Magik, Jubilee, Sunspot, & Dust would be some choice character additions, IMO.

    Your thoughts & ideas 'bout Blue are BRILLIANT, pure genius, and I pray that some or ALL of your suggestions actually become reality!

    Yep, a teleporter was my first thought, after a telepath. That's when Blink came to mind.

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    BleedingCool.com, Matthew Rosenberg Takes Over Astonishing X-Men in July
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    ... issue #13... all new story... all new team. ... a lot of nods to some... favorite stories... but... going to be pushing things forward and challenging the future.
    ... our team is HAVOK and BEAST as co-leaders. DAZZLER brings the firepower. COLOSSUS brings the muscle. WARPATH brings the knives.

    And *maybe* there is another team member we aren't talking about yet? And no, I won't spoil it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    I believe it's been said that Psylocke & Bishop, at least, will have a home after Astonishing V1. I'm lovin' EVERYthing 'bout Ali & Jimmy in this book, and would be in a hype-induced state of shock if Dani Moonstar were the mystery member!

    It does seem that Gold is in need of polishing, no doubt. Iceman, Magik, Jubilee, Sunspot, & Dust would be some choice character additions, IMO.

    Your thoughts & ideas 'bout Blue are BRILLIANT, pure genius, and I pray that some or ALL of your suggestions actually become reality!

    Yep, a teleporter was my first thought, after a telepath. That's when Blink came to mind.
    • I saw that. Big sigh of relief. I hope Angel and Mystique get a role somewhere too though. I'm dying for Dani Moonstar to make a comeback and Astonishing is as good a place as any. She'd be reason enough to buy the book.
    • No matter the roster, Gold will continue to be subpar so long as Guggenheim is writing. But IF a new writer were to take over, I'd welcome any of those folks. Kitty, Rachel, Magma, and Ink do nothing for me and there are certainly greater X-Men available.
    • Thanks! The House of Magnus has always had promise, and I love the characters being brought into X-Men Blue to support Magneto & Polaris. Hoping like hell that Quicksilver, Mystique & Frenzy, in particular, join that roster. That'd be one badass team.

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    Oh, and someone asked about Dazz & Emma, before IvX and their takedown of BB:




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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Thor13 View Post
    • I saw that. Big sigh of relief. I hope Angel and Mystique get a role somewhere too though. I'm dying for Dani Moonstar to make a comeback and Astonishing is as good a place as any. She'd be reason enough to buy the book.
    • No matter the roster, Gold will continue to be subpar so long as Guggenheim is writing. But IF a new writer were to take over, I'd welcome any of those folks. Kitty, Rachel, Magma, and Ink do nothing for me and there are certainly greater X-Men available.
    • Thanks! The House of Magnus has always had promise, and I love the characters being brought into X-Men Blue to support Magneto & Polaris. Hoping like hell that Quicksilver, Mystique & Frenzy, in particular, join that roster. That'd be one badass team.
    I think Warren & Raven'll be OK, they're basically stalwarts, like Beast & Colossus. Perhaps Bunn'll pursue some of his unfinished business with them. It's ALL 'bout Dani's BIG return now, tho, CAN'T... HAPPEN... SOON ENOUGH!! The waitin' in the wings thing NEEDS to be OVER, she's got too much value & worth to be hangin' back & held down. I just hope they make her powers comin' back eventful enough, 'cause it deserves to be.

    Yeah, I think most fans are pretty fed up, and feelin' like Guggs is just a non-starter at this point.

    Couldn't agree more 'bout the HoM, and share & appreciate your enthusiasm to the Nth DEGREE!

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