"Logan" movie alternate timeline after all?

[WebLurker]

Was just checking something on the Marvel Wiki and discovered that they'd relabeled Logan (and the characters who appeared in it) as an alternate timeline from the main X-Men movie series. The Wiki now says it takes place in Earth-17315 (as opposed to the original trilogy's universe of Earth-10005 and the Days of Future Past's altered timeline of Earth-TRN414, the latter being where we all assumed that Logan took place).

Since it's not a "TRN" number, that means that the new number is ostensibly a legitimate classification and the Wiki cites this article as the source.

I've been finding very hard to find more information on this. Anyone else know if this is legitimately canonical or not?

[Wolvie valley]

Was just checking something on the Marvel Wiki and discovered that they'd relabeled Logan (and the characters who appeared in it) as an alternate timeline from the main X-Men movie series. The Wiki now says it takes place in Earth-17315 (as opposed to the original trilogy's universe of Earth-10005 and the Days of Future Past's altered timeline of Earth-TRN414, the latter being where we all assumed that Logan took place).

Since it's not a "TRN" number, that means that the new number is ostensibly a legitimate classification and the Wiki cites this article as the source.

I've been finding very hard to find more information on this. Anyone else know if this is legitimately canonical or not?

It's not legitimate. The X-men movie universe don't use the term earth to define different timelines. The altering of time comes only via time-travel. I believe when it's time to create another timeline they will just do another time-travel an alter everything but as of now and currently we only have 2 different timelines.

Logan picks things up from Days of future past which was set in 2023 where as Logan is set in 2029. Officially we have only 2 timelines and the X-men universe don't use marvel comic earth+numbers to describe their two different timelines.

If they did that it would be very much confusing for casual viewers and hard to sell thats why they go with the continuity and time-travel to alter things.

I'm confident tho that a third timeline will be created in the future x-men movies.

The the two timelines are separated in 1-Pre-DOPF and 2-post DOPF

[Ambaryerno]

It's not legitimate. The X-men movie universe don't use the term earth to define different timelines. The altering of time comes only via time-travel. I believe when it's time to create another timeline they will just do another time-travel an alter everything but as of now and currently we only have 2 different timelines.

Logan picks things up from Days of future past which was set in 2023 where as Logan is set in 2029. Officially we have only 2 timelines and the X-men universe don't use marvel comic earth+numbers to describe their two different timelines.

If they did that it would be very much confusing for casual viewers and hard to sell thats why they go with the continuity and time-travel to alter things.

I'm confident tho that a third timeline will be created in the future x-men movies.

The the two timelines are separated in 1-Pre-DOPF and 2-post DOPF

The films still fall under Marvel's licensing, and Marvel is the one who determines those reality numbers.

You also have the filmmakers THEMSELVES now stating it's a separate timeline, and that the current X-Films aren't "locked in" to ending up where Logan did.

[Divine Spark]

You also have the filmmakers THEMSELVES now stating it's a separate timeline, and that the current X-Films aren't "locked in" to ending up where Logan did.

Who said that? Singer said the same thing about the DOFP ending.

[Ambaryerno]

Who said that?

I'm trying to find it, but there was an article a few months back where I think it was either Kinsberg, Schuler-Donner, or Mangold himself who said they specifically DON'T want to lock the franchise into an "everything is futile because mutants go extinct" future. Therefore Logan would by definition have to stand alone on a separate timeline.

[Confuzzled]

I'm trying to find it, but there was an article a few months back where I think it was either Kinsberg, Schuler-Donner, or Mangold himself who said they specifically DON'T want to lock the franchise into an "everything is futile because mutants go extinct" future. Therefore Logan would by definition have to stand alone on a separate timeline.

Mangold said the opposite here: https://www.screengeek.net/2017/01/2...line-comments/

Don't think @RealHughJackman said that exactly. Simple fact. We take place in 2029, 5 yrs past anything depicted in XMEN film.

Because we take place after all the other movies, we have freedom. That's all he meant. Breathe,

I think they meant that like DOFP, it's still possible for events in the "prequel" films to change the outcomes for the future of both DOFP and Logan. It's kind of the same timeline but if something drastic changes in the past, then the situation in the future completely morphs into something else, like the DOFP dystopian future changing into the "utopian" DOFP future.

[Dthirds3]

What ever the curent answer is it will be retconed to line up with how they want the franchises to contunue.

[Confuzzled]

What ever the curent answer is it will be retconed to line up with how they want the franchises to contunue.

And all of this will be irrelevant once the Disney deal passes through anyway. Either there will be a hard reboot in the MCU or even in case of a multiverse merger like Secret Wars, it will be a new timeline for both the XCU and the MCU.

[Wolvie valley]

The films still fall under Marvel's licensing, and Marvel is the one who determines those reality numbers.

You also have the filmmakers THEMSELVES now stating it's a separate timeline, and that the current X-Films aren't "locked in" to ending up where Logan did.

The movies fall under Marvel but it has nothing to do with the timeline in the X-men movie universe. The only separate timeline is deadpool because it has different universe and timeline.

The X-men movies are based on continuity and not so much jumping back and forth. Logan is officially within the revised timeline. You can visit the X-men movies wiki and see it for yourself. http://xmenmovies.wikia.com/wiki/X-Men_Movies_Wiki

They refer the Old timeline as the ''original timeline'' and the second timeline as the ''revised timeline''

Movies by time:

Original Timeline:

X-men, X2, Xmen Last stand, The Wolverine, X-men: Origins and First half of DOFP

Revised timeline:

Last half of DOFP, x-men apocalypse, X-men: dark phoenix and Logan

There is nothing outside of Original timeline or revised timeline in the X-men movie universe except X-men first class because it took place before the time-travel happened

[Divine Spark]

The only separate timeline is deadpool because it has different universe and timeline.

It doesn’t.

10char

[Wolvie valley]

It doesn’t.

10char

As far as I know Deadpool is taking place in separate timeline. Even tho it's within X-men world it has separate timeline

[Wiccan]

There's no continuity on Fox movies. Just don't bother with it.

[Divine Spark]

There's no continuity on Fox movies. Just don't bother with it.

Yet the comics do? I also remember the 90s show having massive errors.

[SpiderClops]

Yet the comics do? I also remember the 90s show having massive errors.

No, but comics at least [most of the time] try to give explanations(or used to). Second, I at least don't give them a pass(Phoenix Resurrection and Jean Grey solo were continuity jokes). There's also that continuity in ten movies should be way way easier to manage than in literally hundreds and hundreds issues of one single franchise in an even larger universe.

Movies just don't give a crap about continuity, there's errors from literally one movie to the immediate next, and I'm sad to see that comics are following that lead.

[captain Qball]

I always viewed Logan as a separate stand alone story, like Deadpool. It doesn't tie into the other movies. And since the future of the franchise is with the films set in the past, it doesn't really matter.