Morrison on Green Lantern

[SiegePerilous02]

If he stops saying "poozer." That has to go.

It's his catchphrase, and I can't fathom a good reason to get rid of it.

[Trey Strain]

It's his catchphrase, and I can't fathom a good reason to get rid of it.

He should say it once every 100 issues. That would be more than enough.

[SiegePerilous02]

He should say it once every 100 issues. That would be more than enough.

Is there a significant amount of fans who don't like the catchphrase or something...?

Every issue would be too much, but limiting it to every 100 issues is serious overkill.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

The "creepy old Hal" thing is almost certainly about Arasia, something that is best forgotten or retconned out. Especially considering that all of that stuff was written by a pedo. I doubt there will ever be any reference to that character again at this point.

I think you've got some dodgy info here. Steve Englehart, who is not a pedophile, first put Arisia and Hal together romantically, although the teenage Arisia having an unrequited crush on Hal had been around for years, starting with Marv Wolfman, who created Arisia. However, Englehart went out of his way to make sure that Arisia was no longer underage before hooking Hal and her up. He came up with a overly-convoluted storyline in which Arisia used her ring to fast forward time in order to make her Hal's age in both body and mind. And, even then, Hal refused to have anything untoward with Arisia until she had proved to him that she was no longer underage. The Hal/Arisia romance didn't last much long once Englehart had left, because it wasn't particularly compelling, even though subsequent creators continued with the idea that Arisia was now a fully grown adult. A later writer on GL, Gerard Jones, was recently convicted of possession of child pornography. However, he never wrote Hal and Arisia as a romantic couple, although he did temporarily revert Arisia's mind to a childlike state after some kind of trauma (which, in retrospect, raises some red flags).

Geoff Johns did indeed retcon this whole mess by explaining that Arisia, who comes from a race of long-lived elves, was always hundreds of years older than Hal, but her planet's orbit around its sun takes much, much longer, which is why she originally told Hal she was 14 years old, causing him to be steer clear of her advances for years because he wrongly assumed she was underage.

I don't think Arisia is going to suddenly disappear as a concept. Her original backstory is tremendous. She's from a long line of ring-bearers from a fantasy world who treated the ring like magic. However, you're right in thinking that nobody is ever, ever going to bring up Hal & Arisia's ill-concieved pairing by Steve Englehart, who, again, is not a pedophile

[Grim Ghost]

I think you've got some dodgy info here. Steve Englehart, who is not a pedophile, first put Arisia and Hal together romantically, although the teenage Arisia having an unrequited crush on Hal had been around for years, starting with Marv Wolfman, who created Arisia. However, Englehart went out of his way to make sure that Arisia was no longer underage before hooking Hal and her up. He came up with a overly-convoluted storyline in which Arisia used her ring to fast forward time in order to make her Hal's age in both body and mind. And, even then, Hal refused to have anything untoward with Arisia until she had proved to him that she was no longer underage. The Hal/Arisia romance didn't last much long once Englehart had left, because it wasn't particularly compelling, even though subsequent creators continued with the idea that Arisia was now a fully grown adult. A later writer on GL, Gerard Jones, was recently convicted of possession of child pornography. However, he never wrote Hal and Arisia as a romantic couple, although he did temporarily revert Arisia's mind to a childlike state after some kind of trauma (which, in retrospect, raises some red flags).

Geoff Johns did indeed retcon this whole mess by explaining that Arisia, who comes from a race of long-lived elves, was always hundreds of years older than Hal, but her planet's orbit around its sun takes much, much longer, which is why she originally told Hal she was 14 years old, causing him to be steer clear of her advances for years because he wrongly assumed she was underage.

I don't think Arisia is going to suddenly disappear as a concept. Her original backstory is tremendous. She's from a long line of ring-bearers from a fantasy world who treated the ring like magic. However, you're right in thinking that nobody is ever, ever going to bring up Hal & Arisia's ill-concieved pairing by Steve Englehart, who, again, is not a pedophile

Thanks for the correction. I thought Gerard Jones created her. It is still a creepy storyline that I hope is never revisited. Johns might have been better off ignoring the whole thing. I can't agree that anything about the character is good though. Seems like another attempt from Englehart to push one of his Mantis type characters.

[Trey Strain]

Is there a significant amount of fans who don't like the catchphrase or something...?

Every issue would be too much, but limiting it to every 100 issues is serious overkill.

It's a joke that keeps getting repeated, with diminishing returns.

[Trey Strain]

Thanks for the correction. I thought Gerard Jones created her. It is still a creepy storyline that I hope is never revisited. Johns might have been better off ignoring the whole thing. I can't agree that anything about the character is good though. Seems like another attempt from Englehart to push one of his Mantis type characters.

If there is a space-based GL comic, she should be in it. I would rather see Guy and maybe Kyle in space with her and a few other GLs.

But I suspect that Morrison will keep Hal in space, a scenario that passed its expiration date long age.

[j9ac9k]

There are many ways they can bring Arisia back to being a more featured player without mentioning that weird storyline - retconning being the more preferable one. It would be easy enough to say that she and Hal used to date and leave it at that. Personally, I'd love to see them give it another try so that we can see them together without the aging up baggage. Hal being with Carol always seemed to create a problem for Hal having to split time and priorities, but dating a fellow Lantern he wouldn't have to make that kind of choice. Arisia encouraged his life as a Lantern, which was good for him.

[Trey Strain]

There are many ways they can bring Arisia back to being a more featured player without mentioning that weird storyline - retconning being the more preferable one. It would be easy enough to say that she and Hal used to date and leave it at that. Personally, I'd love to see them give it another try so that we can see them together without the aging up baggage. Hal being with Carol always seemed to create a problem for Hal having to split time and priorities, but dating a fellow Lantern he wouldn't have to make that kind of choice. Arisia encouraged his life as a Lantern, which was good for him.

Hal should be on Earth and Carol should be his girlfriend. Every attempt to "improve on" that situation has predictably failed. Arisia can be Guy's girlfriend.

[Uncanny Mutie]

I still believe Kyle will be killed in an event at some point.

For many of us who were huge GL fans in the 90s, we will always have a soft spot for Kyle as "our" Green Lantern. But I think it's fair to admit that ever since Hal got restored to his proper place as a Green Lantern, and since the GLC has been re-established, Kyle has been pretty disposable and forgettable, for the most part.

I LOVED the arc Venditti did starring Kyle and Soranik. That was more character development than Kyle had gotten in YEARS. But Venditti never followed up on it, so sadly, I suspect no one ever will. In fact, as soon as Kyle's GL costume gets ripped at the chest in the battle, the artist and writer won't even bother depicting or mentioning the scar that Soranik branded him with. What a waste of great character development for Kyle.

[CaptCleghorn]

It's a joke that keeps getting repeated, with diminishing returns.

I'm not sure this is true. The word certainly has content as a joke, but it also serves to define Kilowog's speech patterns. In a series like GL where there are multiple characters with the same power set, any aspect that can define a character is helpful. Like with Yoda's sentence structure it works.

[JBatmanFan05]

In terms of what Morrison would do, I don't see him touching on much of Geoff Johns' work, despite his praise for it. Morrison would carve out his own playground of weird and cosmic, with his own villain(s). So it'd be a run without significant usage of Sinestro, Krona, Star Sapphire, Hector Hammond, the rainbow Lanterns, etc. New stuff.

Grant often shows his love for the main traditional elements, so I'm not so sure he'd avoid "significant usage" of Sinestro, Hector, and other main things. He might use them in a big way, but give them his own twist. He did that with Magneto and Joker (Lex, Darkseid, etc, etc). He felt he brought Magneto back to his roots and had various things he was going for with different touches he gave to Joker.

[WonderScott]

I'd kind of go for a New X-Men vibe with some known characters who have changes to them, but also the introduction of new characters. Whether Lanterns or Oa support staff or new alien non-Corps character.

My gut tells me that Morrison was tapped for mapping out and developing what's behind the busted Source Wall. I'm hoping for some new alien concepts that the GLs can sink their rings into so it's just not endless rainbow warrior confrontations anymore.

[JBatmanFan05]

I'd kind of go for a New X-Men vibe with some known characters who have changes to them, but also the introduction of new characters.

That'd actually be a brilliant approach for him to take with GL, broadly speaking.

I'm hoping for some new alien concepts that the GLs can sink their rings into so it's just not endless rainbow warrior confrontations anymore.

It's very possible Grant opts for Cassandra Nova type clever new villains vs too much rainbow associated villainy. That being said, while we all seem to want less rainbow wars, I think Grant shouldn't avoid the rainbow spectrum either and he has a real opportunity to do some cool or fresh nuanced stuff with it.

[TheCape]

For many of us who were huge GL fans in the 90s, we will always have a soft spot for Kyle as "our" Green Lantern. But I think it's fair to admit that ever since Hal got restored to his proper place as a Green Lantern, and since the GLC has been re-established, Kyle has been pretty disposable and forgettable, for the most part.

I LOVED the arc Venditti did starring Kyle and Soranik. That was more character development than Kyle had gotten in YEARS. But Venditti never followed up on it, so sadly, I suspect no one ever will. In fact, as soon as Kyle's GL costume gets ripped at the chest in the battle, the artist and writer won't even bother depicting or mentioning the scar that Soranik branded him with. What a waste of great character development for Kyle.

I'm indifferent to Kyle in one way or another, but why kill him?, wouldn't be better just retire him or not usimg him for a while, i don't think that he detracts anything for anyone if he j7st take a supporting role, besides the fact that comic book deaths rarely stick with leading characthers.