Mutants 1,000,000 BC

[BBeeryan]

chile I stay confusion with some of this "outrage" about storm.... but canon is canon let people be pressed as it won't change a thang...

Oh, I know, love. I'm in full agreement. The only way this "news" actually has merit is if my theory about her mutant gene coming from her father's side actually becomes canon. Until that day comes her maternal lineage is the source of all her power. Those women have been in power since the dawn of humanity as so expeditiously provided by ExodusCloak with the scan now in question.

[magenta]

*sigh* Yes. Even being aware of the bait doesn't stop me from being baited.

Odin - God
Phoenix - mutant? possessed by cosmic entity
Agamotto - magic entity
Ghost Rider - demon/magic entity
Black Panther - magic entity
Starbrand - Deviant? possessed by a cosmic force
Iron Fist - magic entity

One of them, at least, has to be an Eternal or a Deviant.

Hmm, so Phoenix is the only possible mutant in the group? I'll admit that I know little about Eternals or Deviants, so I don't understand how they fit in at all.

[jwatson]

So apparently a throwaway line of dialogue in Avengers #1 indicates that mutants now date to the time period of the Avengers 1,000,000 BC team.

Does anyone at Marvel realize this now means mutants would PRECEDE normal humans by about 500,000-700,000 years?

Bad enough they can't keep their OWN continuity straight, now they can't even keep up on basic scientific facts. :-P

I didn't think he meant literal mutants. It more felt like he was alluding to whoever that hulk-like creature was.

[nx01a]

Hmm, so Phoenix is the only possible mutant in the group? I'll admit that I know little about Eternals or Deviants, so I don't understand how they fit in at all.

There shouldn't be any humans at all back then, much less the next step of human evolution. The link I posted outlines info on the Celestials, Deviants, and Eternals, as well as debunking certain recent matrilineal X-gene suggestions.

[CuteClops]

I feel that Jean Grey fans will be very annoyed with this book. I mean, just thinking.

[Harpsikord]

I feel that Jean Grey fans will be very annoyed with this book. I mean, just thinking.

As a Jean Grey fan - no I am not. I'm also not going to discuss my ideas because they'll derail the thread even more than it already has been.

[butterflykyss]

Oh, I know, love. I'm in full agreement. The only way this "news" actually has merit is if my theory about her mutant gene coming from her father's side actually becomes canon. Until that day comes her maternal lineage is the source of all her power. Those women have been in power since the dawn of humanity as so expeditiously provided by ExodusCloak with the scan now in question.

yes I remember seeing that tarot card scan years ago but how it all fits with this avengers story I would love to know. if her ancestor was the first sorcesses supreme how does this fit with agamotto?? and that would be interesting if her mutant gene came from her dad but her goddess gene came from her mom.. I'm here for it!!!

[useridgoeshere]

Starbrand is specifically called out separately as a "caveman with the powers of the stars." So he's not referenced as a god, mutant or monster.

[Muffinman]

So it begins...

It’s getting terribly obnoxious on the boards that almost any of the topics are almost completely absorbed by talk of storm. As a fan of the character, it is becoming FAR too much.

[Harpsikord]

It’s getting terribly obnoxious on the boards that almost any of the topics are almost completely absorbed by talk of storm. As a fan of the character, it is becoming FAR too much.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm not going to say, stop writing my review threads for X-Men Red but for the first three issues each of them became about Storm and now that Storm is actively a part of the book...

[LordAllMIghty]

Re: the mutant and homo sapiens timeline...

"During their First Host on Earth, one million years ago, the Celestials collected the Wanderers, a tribe of Homo erectus. Gammenon the Gatherer collected the ape-men and send them to Ziran the Tester who mutated them to have an unstable genome, creating the Deviants (Homo descendus), a race with various mutations, who were then released and went hiding in the caves. With other subjects, Nezarr the Calculator then created the Eternals (Homo immortalis), hairless, upright tall beings able to tap into the cosmic power. They were themselves released, flying out of the Celestials' laboratory-ship. Finally, Oneg the Prober created a latent gene for the expansion of human potential and those modified yet apparently unchanged ape-men were released.
The potential for superhuman powers was only latent: That dormant "DNA complex"/"mutant genes" implanted in Homo erectus.
That potential was transferred to Homo antecessor, then to Homo neanderthalensis, both species experimented on by Kree in order to create the Inhumans (Inhomo supremis).
It later came to fruition into the form of Homo superior, the mutants."

Have the changed this...

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[ExodusCloak]

Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm not going to say, stop writing my review threads for X-Men Red but for the first three issues each of them became about Storm and now that Storm is actively a part of the book...

Do we really think that Storm's lineage goes back 1,002,018 years???


What this likely means is that the Phoenix host is the oldest mutant, officially, if she shows up again.

Were you not the user querying Storms ancestry? Which is an x-staple like Xavier's baldness. People aren't presenting a scan go derail a thread. People are presenting a scan answer your question. Additionally, given that Storm ancestry would be relevant to a thread called mutants 1000000BC

[Harpsikord]

Were you not the user querying Storms ancestry? Which is an x-staple like Xavier's baldness.

I made a comment about someone else making it about Storm and then continued on with a relevant discussion. It was BBeeryan that started the discussion of Storm in this thread.

[butterflykyss]

I made a comment about someone else making it about Storm and then continued on with a relevant discussion. It was BBeeryan that started the discussion of Storm in this thread.

to be fair the point he made was relevant to the topic of discussion.. and seriously if people don't want to.talk about them dont engage in that discussion. bb hasn't been the one derailing this thread talking about storm fans it's been others.

[The Dying Detective]

Do not think it makes any significant difference but now Apocalypse is no longer the first mutant although believes that he gave himself that title.

Kind of embarrassing for Apocalypse to be referred to as the First Mutant at all at this point.