2018 Box Office Busts

[SUPERECWFAN1]

For every film that does huge like Jumanji : Welcome to the Jungle , there is films like Justice League that under-perform badly. In 2018 studios have seen a variety of films and sequels rise high and some fall below. Its time to examine this all folks.





Its hard to believe Natalie Portman was once in Thor and was portrayed a huge love interest for the character. That had things worked out and the film did better for her character as Jane Foster , she'd have done Infinity War and been in a huge global hit. Instead things didn't work out so well and Portman who is a great actress moved onto Black Swan and did films like that. But its this film in 2018 that comically tanked and the very studio with it Paramount seems to be responsible.

The film had a $40-55 million dollar budget and Paramount got scared the film was too much of a "thinking" film and decided to literally hurt the films overseas box office by releasing it to Netflix outside the North American market. The film would ultimately be a box office bust and only do $32 million domestically and $10+ million in some foreign markets that it got released.




Red Sparrow

Jennifer Lawrence had been on a roll film wise from the Hunger Games , X-Men and several other film projects. The roll came to a thud on Red Sparrow. The film is about the story of a Russian intelligence officer who is sent to make contact with a CIA agent in the hope of discovering the identity of a mole. The danger signs were last year when the film was pushed from a competitive time slot in November to March.

The films budget was $69 million and only did $46.6 million domestically and did $95+ internationally. But the film budget and promotion never was made back.







Disney has been on a roll with its Marvel films and thus far with Black Panther and Avengers : Infinity War have earned combined $2.4 billion in box office thus far. But creating new properties have been an issue and Disney had high hopes on the film adaption of A Wrinkle In Time. With production and advertisement the film had $250 million tied into it and would need a worldwide total of $400 million to break even . Instead the film under-performed domestically and did $95.1 million and only did $31.4 million internationally.








The first Pacific Rim was a slow gaining hit that finally got a sequel after talk of one had went for a few years. Guillermo del Toro who directed the 1st one even came back as producer for the sequel. For months a commercial ran about the graphics being used in the film as well. The film added Scott Eastwood and John Boyega as the main cast.

Then it was released and quickly bombed for Universal in quick fashion. The film has a $140-175 million dollar budget and another $140 million in promotion. Most claim that to break even the film would need $350 million worldwide. Its only done $288 million and has only done $59+ million domestically.

[AJBopp]

Its time to examine this all folks.

Why?

Its hard to believe Natalie Portman was once in Thor and was portrayed a huge love interest for the character. That had things worked out and the film did better for her character as Jane Foster , she'd have done Infinity War and been in a huge global hit. Instead things didn't work out so well and Portman who is a great actress moved onto Black Swan and did films like that.

For the record, Black Swan was a better film than any Marvel movie has been or will ever be. I expect she (or the studio) has no regrets at all about doing the film.

Was going to post more, but this whole thread seems incredibly petty.

[choptop]

I strongly disagree with that black swan was well made but really not that good and very overrated. Allso were did you get the 140 mill in Pomo from? If true that is really stupid.

[Vinsanity]

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[Red Robe Jaldari]

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Good times were had.

I would say they overachieved.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Why?

Because its a TV/Film board.

For the record, Black Swan was a better film than any Marvel movie has been or will ever be. I expect she (or the studio) has no regrets at all about doing the film.

Was going to post more, but this whole thread seems incredibly petty.

Well I should have explained better. Marvel should have done better writing for Portman clearly as she's a great actress and did awesome in Black Swan. I still have no idea why she'd do this film given how badly its done. She choose wisely moving to Black Swan. Its more Marvel's fault they wrote badly for Portman.

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I don't think it's fair to put Annihilation up there as it doesn't commit to the old movie business module, especially when it broke even at the box office and we don't know what they sold the Netflixs right for.

[Cyke]

Fresh off the thrill of Black Panther, I remember going with about a dozen friends on opening night to watch A Wrinkle in Time.

We came out of it going, "eh?" and spent a good 15 minutes in the lobby in a circle, just going over complaint after complaint and ridiculing the film.

Later that night, three of us went out to a late night dinner and most of it was, "Yep, it wasn't good. Not bad, but not good." It was on the precipice of being something whimsical and mind blowing, and it really chickened out -- like it knew it was going to be sentimental goo and wanted to get to each sentimental beat as quickly as possible.

If I go to a movie I know is going to be so-so, then I expect it. Rarely do I spend money on a bad movie thanks to word of mouth and media reviews. But I'd never gone into a movie with such high hopes and such a big drop in disappointment. Word of mouth and mediocre reviews helped tank that movie.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I don't think it's fair to put Annihilation up there as it doesn't commit to the old movie business module, especially when it broke even at the box office and we don't know what they sold the Netflixs right for.

The film didn't break even. Films overseas get a percentage to the studio. And the overseas box office wasn't helped by this since Netflix sold the rights to netflix (which ticked off the director). It may have helped the film overseas do better had they released it fully.

[Midvillian1322]

Natalie Portman wasnt the problem with thor not completely. They changed so much about her character that even though she had a huge role in both Thors I never really bought it. That's the relationship that shoulda been the greatest imo. More so then Bruce/Betty Steve/Peggy etc... Thor and Jane and I never really bought it. Then Pattu Jenkins left Thor 2 and Portman made it clear she didnt wsnt be there. Natalie Portman coulda rocked that role it was a clusterfu** of bad ideas around the character

[Joker]

Well I should have explained better. Marvel should have done better writing for Portman clearly as she's a great actress and did awesome in Black Swan. I still have no idea why she'd do this film given how badly its done. She choose wisely moving to Black Swan. Its more Marvel's fault they wrote badly for Portman.

Like most actors, she read a script and liked it, and probably liked the previous work of the director. Ex Machina was good movie, and was very well received.

An actor can't know how a film is going to turn out in the end, or how it's going to do critically or financially. To suggest that she should have known and turned down the role is absurd.

And I've only heard good things about Annihilation, FWIW

[Totoro Man]

Like most actors, she read a script and liked it, and probably liked the previous work of the director. Ex Machina was good movie, and was very well received.

An actor can't know how a film is going to turn out in the end, or how it's going to do critically or financially. To suggest that she should have known and turned down the role is absurd.

And I've only heard good things about Annihilation, FWIW

I know, right? critically acclaimed indie sci-fi sleeper hit... and if Portman liked the script then WHY NOT give it a try? it's not like she could know the outcome.

look at Gwyneth Paltrow - she signed up for "Iron Man" not knowing ANYTHING about the project except that she wanted to work with Favreau, Bridges, and Downey Jr. literally every person I had met who saw "Ex Machina" was excited about this film. . . . and just because it doesn't do spectacularly well at the box office doesn't mean it's a bad film.

some of my favorite films in the last few years had mediocre box-office because they were competing against pop juggernauts. "Scott Pilgrim vs the World" is a better film than "the Expendables", and "Love and Friendship" is much better than "X-Men: Apocalpyse"... but, in both cases, they were released on the same weekend as bigger films.

now, there's another option - I thought "District 9" was a really fun movie... but that director appears to have only had one solid film in him. maybe we had the same problem with the director of "Ex Machina". I won't know for sure until I see "Annihilation" later.

ah, and Ridley Scott has been churning out duds for several decades now... and it doesn't stop him from producing a pretty good movie every once in a long while.

[Joker]

Blade Runner was a commercial and critical bomb upon release. Influenced an entire generation.

Box office means so little in terms of art. People just need tangible parameters to measure things by.