Who were the OTHER Golden Age heroes?

[MajorHoy]

Oh, and another retconned "Golden Age" Marvel character is King Azzuri, the Black Panther during World War II.

[IronCage]

I always thought it would be cool if Marvel ever did a "Ultimate Universe" type series but for their Golden Age characters (or at least anybody pre-Fantastic Four).

Think like DC's New 52 Earth-2 comic but better. What would a modern universe and take on these characters look like? There could be some fun reinventions of these characters, many of whom haven't gotten usage in a while. Captain American, Human Torch and Namor would also be featured.

[MajorHoy]

I always thought it would be cool if Marvel ever did a "Ultimate Universe" type series but for their Golden Age characters (or at least anybody pre-Fantastic Four).

Think like DC's New 52 Earth-2 comic but better. What would a modern universe and take on these characters look like? There could be some fun reinventions of these characters, many of whom haven't gotten usage in a while. Captain American, Human Torch and Namor would also be featured.

I'd rather read a comic book featuring new stories with the Timely/Marvel heroes on their original Earth during the 1940s, but I know that's not likely to happen.
Hell, I'd love it if Marvel gave us a tpb collection of All-Winners Squad: Band of Heroes that actually gave us ALL of the story, including the issues never published, but . . .

[shooshoomanjoe]

Since Amazing Man is in the public domain and he was introduced into the Marvel 616 universe in the Iron Fist series, does that mean that the Amazing Man golden age stories we're set in the 616 universe?

[MajorHoy]

Since Amazing Man is in the public domain and he was introduced into the Marvel 616 universe in the Iron Fist series, does that mean that the Amazing Man golden age stories we're set in the 616 universe?

Set in the 616 universe? Probably not, especially since that wasn't really a thing back then.
I would think it's more like Marvel could make use of those stories and place them in the past of the 616 universe if they wanted, but that would be a slightly different thing.

[IronCage]

I'd rather read a comic book featuring new stories with the Timely/Marvel heroes on their original Earth during the 1940s, but I know that's not likely to happen.
Hell, I'd love it if Marvel gave us a tpb collection of All-Winners Squad: Band of Heroes that actually gave us ALL of the story, including the issues never published, but . . .

The reason I suggested an Ultimate Universe style reinvention is because I think that'd revitalize interest in these characters, who don't really have the cache or following that DC's Golden Age heroes do. More leeway and room for creative swings, and maybe that would lead to reprints or even a new run of their Golden Age 1940s exploits.

[Riv86672]

I always thought it would be cool if Marvel ever did a "Ultimate Universe" type series but for their Golden Age characters (or at least anybody pre-Fantastic Four).

Think like DC's New 52 Earth-2 comic but better. What would a modern universe and take on these characters look like? There could be some fun reinventions of these characters, many of whom haven't gotten usage in a while. Captain American, Human Torch and Namor would also be featured.

^^^Thats an interesting idea!

[Slimybug]

Thanks a lot to MajorHoy for all your additions. I just went through all 13 pages of this thread, but a lot of the pictures are no longer showing up

Even though almost all heroes mentioned are in the two books I believe you were publishing from (Marvel Mystery Handbook & Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe) I'm still going to hold off officially "counting" anyone who hasn't been explicitly shown in the comics to have crossed over with 616 characters.

By my count, that is 61 heroes or teams. Here they are, some with how they've crossed over into 616 in parenthesis

54 are from Timely, with an additional 7 retconned into Marvel from other companies.

The Big 3
1. Namor
2. The Human Torch
3. Captain America

The Twelve
4. Blue Blade
5. Black Widow
6. Captain Wonder
7. Dynamic Man
8. Electro
9. The Fiery Mask
10. The Laughing Mask
11. Master Mind Excello
12. Mr. E
13. The Phantom Reporter
14. Rockman
15. The Witness

Others
16. American Ace
17. The Angel
18. Archie the Gruesome
19. Black Marvel
20. Blazing Skull
21. Blonde Phantom (appears in She-Hulk)
22. The Challenger
23. Citizen V
24. Davey Drew
25. Doctor Nemesis
26. Ferret
27. The Fin
28. Gary Gaunt
29. Ghost Girl
30. The Hurricane
31. Ka-Zar
32. Jack Frost
33. Jap-Buster Johnson
34. Jimmy Jupiter
35. Leopard Girl (appears in Ant-Man [Spencer run])
36. Marvel Boy
37. The Masked Raider (Marvel Comics 1000)
38. Merzah the Mystic
39. Miss America
40. Miss Patriot Ant-Man (Spencer)
41. Mercury
42. Moon Man
43. Namora
44. Red Raven
45. Silver Scorpion
46. Sun Girl (She-Hulk - Referenced by Blonde Phantom)
47. Taxi Taylor
48. Thin Man
49. The Thunderer (appears in Ant-Man [Spencer run])
40. Vagabond
51. The Vision
52. The Whizzer
53. Young Allies
54. Young Avenger

From Other Companies
55. Amazing Man
56. Betty Dean
57. Dominic Fortune
58. Duke O’Dowd / The Human Meteor
59. Spider Queen
60. Strongman
61. Volton

[Slimybug]

And here are an additional 55 characters that I haven't seen confirmation of crossing over into 616.

3-D Man
Agents of Atlas
American Avenger
Barney Mullen
Blackstone the Magician Detective
Blue Blaze
Blue Diamond
Blue Marvel
Breeze Barton
Captain Daring / Captain Dash
Captain Terror
Casey: Crime Photographer
Cat-Man
Challenger
Comet Pierce
Crimson Commando
Dakor the Magician
Dale of the FBI
Defender
Destroyer
Falcon
Father Time
The Fighting Yank
Flash Foster
Flexo
The Fourth Musketeer
Hercules
The Human Top
Invisible Man
John Steele
Magar
Major Liberty
Mantor
Marvex
Monstro the Mighty
Mr. Wu
Monako
Nellie the Nurse
Night Raven
The Patriot
Phantom Bullet
Phantom Reporter
Roko
Secret Stamp
Terror
Terry Vance / Deadline Dawson
The Three Xs
Tigerman
Tough Kid Squad
Trojak
Venus
Whirlwind Carter
Zar
Zara
Zephyr Jones

[Reviresco]

Thanks a lot to MajorHoy for all your additions. I just went through all 13 pages of this thread, but a lot of the pictures are no longer showing up

Even though almost all heroes mentioned are in the two books I believe you were publishing from (Marvel Mystery Handbook & Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe) I'm still going to hold off officially "counting" anyone who hasn't been explicitly shown in the comics to have crossed over with 616 characters.

By my count, that is 61 heroes or teams. Here they are, some with how they've crossed over into 616 in parenthesis

54 are from Timely, with an additional 7 retconned into Marvel from other companies.

The Big 3
1. Namor
2. The Human Torch
3. Captain America

cut

From Other Companies
55. Amazing Man
56. Betty Dean
57. Dominic Fortune
58. Duke O’Dowd / The Human Meteor
59. Spider Queen
60. Strongman
61. Volton

I'm pretty sure that Betty Dean is an original Timely character. Bill Everett created her as a Namor cast character first appearance was in Marvel Mystery Comics.

[Reviresco]

Since Amazing Man is in the public domain and he was introduced into the Marvel 616 universe in the Iron Fist series, does that mean that the Amazing Man golden age stories we're set in the 616 universe?

Generally speaking, golden age stories aren't part of 616 continuity, until they are referenced or retold in a 616 story. They are mostly considered comics that tell fictionalized versions of things that happened, or just out right fiction.