Comcast wants fox! Puts bigger bid then disney.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I do not have a clue on how this kind of dealings is all about but... When the whole thing was announced back in Christmas, didn't that meant that some kind of deal was forged? And if Comcast does buy Fox, doesn't that mean that Fox has το compense Disney?

Both sides have a back out clause in place. The price is between $1.5-2.5 billion .


The more I read of this the more its like Comcast will be utterly fucked in a couple years between massive debt , running Hulu and trying to run film divisions.

[Confuzzled]

Because almost everyone believes that Comcast will get popped for antitrust laws by this.

According to this full Cheddar interview, Comcast is actually at a better position when it comes to antitrust laws than AT&T because the main issue with AT&T acquiring Time Warner content is that they are a national player, while Comcast is simply a regional player.

[Confuzzled]

The more I read of this the more its like Comcast will be utterly fucked in a couple years between massive debt, running Hulu and trying to run film divisions.

By that logic, Netflix should be a lost cause too as they are still in incredible debt.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

By that logic, Netflix should be a lost cause too as they are still in incredible debt.

Netflix earned over $2 billion in profit and spending a huge amount it claims on original programming. It raised its debt basically to spend on original programming. The service leads everything and has over 100+ million subscribers. Hulu is a very distant 3rd and has under 20+ million. Its grew in subscribers a lot since they have pushed a new version of the service and more. As of right now ...Hulu is has 4 owners who pay a split cost. It will be 3 and the majority owner is gonna have to handle the load on paying for content. Whether it be Disney or Comcast.

Also as far as antitrust laws go Comcast is a telecommunications company and owning IP's is a scary deal as mentioned before. Its why folks aren't pleased at all with them getting that since they aren't a trustworthy company already and now getting IP's would have them possibly do worse things. (go google some calls Comcast gets as customer service lol)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Do people really want a company like this owning IP's right now ?

[AJBopp]

By that logic, Netflix should be a lost cause too as they are still in incredible debt.

The issue is "how much debt can you manage" not "how much money can you lose"

[Confuzzled]

Also as far as antitrust laws go Comcast is a telecommunications company and owning IP's is a scary deal as mentioned before.

Do people really want a company like this owning IP's right now?

You're acting as if this is the first time Comcast is going to own content/IP's. Universal Studios is doing just fine, people love visiting the Universal Parks around the globe etc. It's not a sky is falling situation lol

[Jokerz79]

You're acting as if this is the first time Comcast is going to own content/IP's. Universal Studios is doing just fine, people love visiting the Universal Parks around the globe etc. It's not a sky is falling situation lol

It doesn't seem that you're grasping the danger in this it's not about how the IP's will fare under Comcast they'll do fine it's about the potential of Comcast using IP's as leverage in service wars. Comcast and AT&T if their individual mergers go through could use IP's as exclusives for their telecommunications services and force out competitors. We are entering a new Format War with streaming and IP hoarding is scary enough but IP hoarding with Telecommunications is terrifying.

[Immortal Weapon]

You're acting as if this is the first time Comcast is going to own content/IP's. Universal Studios is doing just fine, people love visiting the Universal Parks around the globe etc. It's not a sky is falling situation lol

It's not about Fox doing well under Comcast but as Jokerz79 said, a telecom hoarding IP. Comcast could very easily pull Fox from everything it's on now and have be exclusive only to it's services. Being a television and internet provider they have control of those distribution channels in the areas they provide for.

[Confuzzled]

It doesn't seem that you're grasping the danger in this it's not about how the IP's will fare under Comcast they'll do fine it's about the potential of Comcast using IP's as leverage in service wars. Comcast and AT&T if their individual mergers go through could use IP's as exclusives for their telecommunications services and force out competitors. We are entering a new Format War with streaming and IP hoarding is scary enough but IP hoarding with Telecommunications is terrifying.

It's not about Fox doing well under Comcast but as Jokerz79 said, a telecom hoarding IP. Comcast could very easily pull Fox from everything it's on now and have be exclusive only to it's services. Being a television and internet provider they have control of those distribution channels in the areas they provide for.

Disney is planning its own streaming service. It could easily do the same and "pull Fox from everything" and have it be exclusive only to its services. And all of this is assuming people will want to watch Fox content so much that they will ditch Comcast's competitors just for those IP's (I mean, Comcast could have done the same with Universal IP's too if they are prone to do that). Not buying the telecom companies are more "dangerous" than Disney handwringing.

[AJBopp]

Disney is planning its own streaming service. It could easily do the same and "pull Fox from everything" and have it be exclusive only to its services. And all of this is assuming people will want to watch Fox content so much that they will ditch Comcast's competitors just for those IP's (I mean, Comcast could have done the same with Universal IP's too if they are prone to do that). Not buying the telecom companies are more "dangerous" than Disney handwringing.

Disney is not planning to create its own internet service provider to stream its content on. It's planning to stream it's content on existing services.

[Confuzzled]

Disney is not planning to create its own internet service provider to stream its content on. It's planning to stream it's content on existing services.

Still, it is an exclusive requiring a paid subscription (albeit one that won't be as cost exhaustive, but still costly enough knowing Disney).

Also, we are talking about some entertainment IP's here, not life sustaining food or water. If Comcast pulls something like this, not many people will bite no matter how much they love their mutants or xenomorphs.

[AJBopp]

Still, it is an exclusive requiring a paid subscription (albeit one that won't be as cost exhaustive, but still costly enough knowing Disney).

Also, we are talking about some entertainment IP's here, not life sustaining food or water. If Comcast pulls something like this, not many people will bite no matter how much they love their mutants or xenomorphs.

Comcast is a virtual monopoly in many markets. It's not a question of whether people bite. It's a question of whether they are allowed to control how much water is in the lake.

[Confuzzled]

Comcast is a virtual monopoly in many markets. It's not a question of whether people bite. It's a question of whether they are allowed to control how much water is in the lake.

Except it's not literal water in a literal lake. Also, if they pull this stunt, people will pirate and watch pirated content. The number of people willing to actually switch internet service providers just for particular content doesn't seem big to me.

[Immortal Weapon]

Except it's not literal water in a literal lake. Also, if they pull this stunt, people will pirate and watch pirated content. The number of people willing to actually switch internet service providers just for particular content doesn't seem big to me.

How many internet providers you think there is at any given market? Comcast is the only game in town in many regions of the US. They also have the shittest service of the major ISPs.