Young Animal titles ending (for now) in August

[iron chimp]

I read doom patrol, and first series of cave carson, and shade.

Cave i enjoyed - good characterisation, compelling storyline, and looked great.

Shade was just utterly bland - in the end i just gave up and re read milligan's run which is just lightyears better.

Doom Patrol was just awful. It started off really strong then just utterly collapsed. Nothing was allowed to develop so it was impossible to care about anyone or anything and the whole story whatever it was supposed to be was so rushed. A terrible waste of derrington who made the book look great but that story was just garbled grant morrison fan fic.

Good idea by dc but the writers who came on couldnt hold a candle to morrison, milligan et al from 1990s

[SkyMason21]

I don't know how much that would help them.
Vertigo isn't what it used to be. Especially without Berger or Bond.
Retailers wouldn't be ordering more copies just because they're at Vertigo.
If anything, retailers were probably ordering more with Gerard Way being attached and Young Animal being new and buzzworthy.
I think relaunching the books (giving them all a convenient jump-off point), combined with Doom Patrol losing its steam, is what killed retailer (and reader) interest.

After the relaunch my LCS consistently ordered way more copies of Young Animal books, I think Milk Wars did really well for them and the owner dug it too. Prior I don't recall them ordering more than 3-4 copies for anything other than Doom Patrol.

[Assam]

Doom Patrol is the only book I've been reading (I do mean to eventually get to the others) and I'm glad it'll be coming back eventually. Wonder what other new books will come with it.

Doom Patrol was just awful. It but that story was just garbled grant morrison fan fic.
but the writers who came on couldnt hold a candle to morrison,

That's opinions for ya. For me, Doom Patrol is easily one of the best books DC has had in recent years and when recommending it to people, I've described it as "If Morrison was as good as people hyped him up to be."

[iron chimp]

Doom Patrol is the only book I've been reading (I do mean to eventually get to the others) and I'm glad it'll be coming back eventually. Wonder what other new books will come with it.



That's opinions for ya. For me, Doom Patrol is easily one of the best books DC has had in recent years and when recommending it to people, I've described it as "If Morrison was as good as people hyped him up to be."

haha very true. Well I'm glad you enjoyed it! What did you like in it over Morrison's Doom Patrol?

[Assam]

haha very true. Well I'm glad you enjoyed it! What did you like in it over Morrison's Doom Patrol?

Truth be told, I haven't given his DP a fair shake yet. I'm more referring to his work in general which, with the exception of Animal Man and a few scattered issues here and there, I'm not a fan of.

[iron chimp]

Truth be told, I haven't given his DP a fair shake yet. I'm more referring to his work in general which, with the exception of Animal Man and a few scattered issues here and there, I'm not a fan of.

Well I'd say put your previous experiences to one side and give it a go. Even if you hate it, it will give you the background on a lot of characters in Way's run and add context to a lot of what's going on but I think you might actually really enjoy it. Lovely art by Richard Case too. I dare you to try it!

[Assam]

Well I'd say put your previous experiences to one side and give it a go. Even if you hate it, it will give you the background on a lot of characters in Way's run and add context to a lot of what's going on but I think you might actually really enjoy it. Lovely art by Richard Case too. I dare you to try it!

It is on my list (The guy who used to run my school's comic book club is obsessed with that run and managed to get me interested, despite Morrison), but my to-read list is pretty long so it's not gonna be for awhile.

[CaptCleghorn]

Truth be told, I haven't given his DP a fair shake yet. I'm more referring to his work in general which, with the exception of Animal Man and a few scattered issues here and there, I'm not a fan of.

YA's DP has a lot of inspiration from Morrison's run. I would find it surprising for someone to like one run, but not the other.

[Lee Stone]

After the relaunch my LCS consistently ordered way more copies of Young Animal books, I think Milk Wars did really well for them and the owner dug it too. Prior I don't recall them ordering more than 3-4 copies for anything other than Doom Patrol.

03/2018: Eternity Girl #1 of 6 -- 16,277
03/2018: Mother Panic: Gotham AD #1 -- 14,047
03/2018: Shade the Changing Woman #1 -- 12,705
03/2018: Cave Carson #1 -- 11,659

While they were considerable jumps above their last issues,

01/2018: Doom Patrol #10 -- 15,504
10/2017: Mother Panic #12 -- 7,801
09/2017: Shade Girl #12 -- 7,640
09/2017: Cave Cybernetic #12 -- 8,050


they still pale in comparison to the previous #1 issues...

09/2016: Doom Patrol #1 -- 83,848
10/2016: Cave Carson #1 -- 38,724
11/2016: Mother Panic #1 -- 45,089
10/2016: Shade the Changing Girl #1 -- 35,289

[Flash Gordon]

I don't think monthly sales are the goal for these.

They all should be able to do excellently in tpb, with the right push

[Aahz]

03/2018: Eternity Girl #1 of 6 -- 16,277
03/2018: Mother Panic: Gotham AD #1 -- 14,047
03/2018: Shade the Changing Woman #1 -- 12,705
03/2018: Cave Carson #1 -- 11,659

While they were considerable jumps above their last issues,

01/2018: Doom Patrol #10 -- 15,504
10/2017: Mother Panic #12 -- 7,801
09/2017: Shade Girl #12 -- 7,640
09/2017: Cave Cybernetic #12 -- 8,050


they still pale in comparison to the previous #1 issues...

09/2016: Doom Patrol #1 -- 83,848
10/2016: Cave Carson #1 -- 38,724
11/2016: Mother Panic #1 -- 45,089
10/2016: Shade the Changing Girl #1 -- 35,289

But with the #2 they are almost back to the pre relaunch numbers.

04/2018: Doom Patrol #11 -- 12,937
04/2018: Eternity Girl #2 of 6 -- 8,201
04/2018: Mother Panic: Gotham AD #2 -- 8,053
04/2018: Shade the Changing Woman #2 -- 7,854
04/2018: Cave Carson #2 -- 7,540

[CaptCleghorn]

I think monthly sales are the goal for these.

They all should be able to do excellently in tpb, with the right push.

YA does tend to be much like Vertigo in that and I'd guess the numbers accepted for them would be different than those for the standard superhero stuff. If a bigger share of the money for these is from trades (and digital), then cutoffs would be lower. Still the numbers Lee Stone quoted are disheartening.

[Lee Stone]

But with the #2 they are almost back to the pre relaunch numbers.

04/2018: Doom Patrol #11 -- 12,937
04/2018: Eternity Girl #2 of 6 -- 8,201
04/2018: Mother Panic: Gotham AD #2 -- 8,053
04/2018: Shade the Changing Woman #2 -- 7,854
04/2018: Cave Carson #2 -- 7,540

True, and the first issue sales are almost entirely a sign of retailer support. And for various reasons, retailers just weren't as interested this time around. Likely because they just saw them as nothing more than a start of a new arc or an anniversary issue.

[Flash Gordon]

YA does tend to be much like Vertigo in that and I'd guess the numbers accepted for them would be different than those for the standard superhero stuff. If a bigger share of the money for these is from trades (and digital), then cutoffs would be lower. Still the numbers Lee Stone quoted are disheartening.

Yeah they are disheartening for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these books have a large resurgence in the paperback market. Especially with Gerard Way involved.

I think there's a large market out there that hasn't really been noticed yet.

Honestly all these books should be selling like crazy, there's so much talent and creativity in the pages.

[SiegePerilous02]

YA's DP has a lot of inspiration from Morrison's run. I would find it surprising for someone to like one run, but not the other.

Indeed, Way's run owes a LOT to Morrison's, and is pretty much a sequel to it. Albeit one that tries to also do a lot of its own things, and mostly succeeds. But Morrison's is still, IMO, superior. If only because there's a lot more of it to spread its ideas and stories out.

Way impressed me quite a bit though, with his DP and I'd love to see more work from him on the title and even other corners of the DCU, both major and minor.