Avengers #2 *SPOILERS*

[Biclopcicle]

spoilers:

not a whole lot happened. It appears that the Fallen from 1 million bc was infected with the insects that we saw Strange and BP deal with last issue. Eson attempted to communicate with (She?) Hulk...she is then teleported to wherever GR is and they have a fight....the other "normal" Celestials appear to have succumbed to the same insect infestation....but not the Final Host. They seem to be ready for a purge. Eson is beheaded. How and to what end Loki is involved is not yet clear.

end of spoilers

[InformationGeek]

It's She-Hulk. Not Hulk. She's never been Hulk and never will be, no matter how much Aaron doesn't get it.

Also, way too show respect to Tamaki's run and careful dealings with handling PTSD.

[Frontier]

I'm starting to get the sense that Aaron wanted She-Hulk for the Hulk slot because he wanted a character he would have more freedom with (versus Bruce), but he didn't want to make the effort to actually write her differently from the Hulk.

[Kurolegacy]

It's She-Hulk. Not Hulk. She's never been Hulk and never will be, no matter how much Aaron doesn't get it.

Also, way too show respect to Tamaki's run and careful dealings with handling PTSD.

Actually she did go by Hulk briefly in Tamaki’s run though that was resolved by the end. And seriously? For all the things for Aaron to ignore from her run, he chose to ignore the resolution that fixes her? Really?

I'm starting to get the sense that Aaron wanted She-Hulk for the Hulk slot because he wanted a character he would have more freedom with (versus Bruce), but he didn't want to make the effort to actually write her differently from the Hulk.

I dunno feels more like he had the role written for having Bruce on the team but was told he couldn’t use him and instead swapped it to Jen with little to no care for her character.

[Frontier]

I dunno feels more like he had the role written for having Bruce on the team but was told he couldn’t use him and instead swapped it to Jen with little to no care for her character.

I think I read somewhere that he was offered OG Hulk (even though it wouldn't have made any sense for the current Hulk to be on an Avengers team) but went with She-Hulk instead, even if your scenario isn't implausible.

[Kurolegacy]

I think I read somewhere that he was offered OG Hulk (even though it wouldn't have made any sense for the current Hulk to be on an Avengers team) but went with She-Hulk instead, even if your scenario isn't implausible.

That just makes it even worse since that means he set out to write Jen horribly out of character and editorial just let him.

[Supermutant2099]

It's She-Hulk. Not Hulk. She's never been Hulk and never will be, no matter how much Aaron doesn't get it.

Also, way too show respect to Tamaki's run and careful dealings with handling PTSD.

Amen to that. She is she-hulk. Bad enough taking everything away again without a good about her with a good explanation (Tamaki and CWII did that already) now going hulk name for no reason. Its stupid.
By the way giving her new powers will not make her different bruce and make her any less one dimensional character that CWII and Tamaki (till the end) run turned her into. Won't change that you took from her what made her not be a one dimensional character away.

[GodThor]

spoilers:

it was OK chapter. the stuff with She-Hulk was stupid, really. Hulk 2.0. every character Aaron touches he ruins them. hello, Loki. the only good thing in current Norse lore. oh and Aaron really likes Sun to be everyone Achille's Heel. first, Gods being afraid of dying there, Mjölnir getting destroyed and now Celestials getting nuked in the Sun.

end of spoilers

[Chainsaw Vigilante]

Man have the Celestials been nerfed in recent years.

[Anthony W]

Jen was a member of the Avengers and the FF but Aaron thinks the Celestials are "above her paygrade" Aaron's Thor still feels like Hercules. His Captain Marvel is actually good.

[MyriVerse]

Man have the Celestials been nerfed in recent years.

Seriously. It's gotten to the point where you know a story is bad if it has anything to do with Celestials.

I think we can be very sure Aaron is not going for something simple. That isn’t his usual MO.

I would say it's precisely his MO.

[Mike_Murdock]

It's She-Hulk. Not Hulk. She's never been Hulk and never will be, no matter how much Aaron doesn't get it.

Also, way too show respect to Tamaki's run and careful dealings with handling PTSD.

I think Tamaki handled Jennifer Walters and her PTSD much more carefully, but I didn't think her She-Hulk is dramatically different from what we saw here. I don't think the character referred to herself as the Hulk, but that's really the only big difference I remember.

Anyway, this issue is still setting things up and I don't think it's come close to finishing the setup, which is frustrating given the significant action focus. I liked the moments with Robbie Reyes, though. I'm thinking Aaron might have a little more room to play around with him as a character. Overall, this issue felt like it had fewer little moments given the intense action focus.

I decided to read this issue because the last one did not have much She-Hulk in it and I wanted a taste for how Aaron would write the character. I hated this issue. Aaron turned She-Hulk into a generic Hulk and that is exactly what she shouldn't be. I hope Jen's time in this book is short and I hope a writer that understands what the character should be comes along soon.

How do you think it compared to Mariko Tamaki's portrayal of SHe-Hulk?

[KC]

How do you think it compared to Mariko Tamaki's portrayal of SHe-Hulk?

I dropped Tamaki's Hulk book with the fourth issue (She went four issue without Hulking out, so I dropped it) and I picked it back up for an issue when she temporarily became the fourth-wall breaking Sensational She-Hulk. So that is what I can judge this on.

I loved that take on the fourth-wall breaking She-Hulk and I would prefer that take on the character too what Aaron is giving us.

[Prof. Warren]

“Hackity-hack-hack,” I coughed while reading this dreck. This dialogue might as well have been copy and pasted from an MCU script. Going from No Surender to this is jarring. The disparity in quality is super apparent

No Surrender was a pleasing capstone to the previous Avengers era but it was, at its best, simply a straight-forward, squarely told Avengers tale that balanced character, action and honored the long history of the team.

So far, Aaron's Avengers is in that same tradition. With McGuinness on art, it may jump off the page as splashier and more bombastic but at heart it's cut from the same cloth as No Surrender, which in turn was in step with classic Avengers.

Like No Surrender, this is fun, slickly crafted, mainstream comics, period. Neither is dramatically better or worse than the other.

[Crimz]

I'm not feeling it so I think I'm done. It's not really grabbing me and I hated how Jen was written.