Imagine being proud to have negative traits. I can’t relate.
DC: Justice League, The Flash, Justice League Dark, Superman, Action Comics, Green Arrow, Justice League Odyssey, The Terrifics, Teen Titans, Titans, Brimstone, Female Furies, Damage, Heroes In Crisis
Marvel: The Punisher, Cosmic Ghost Rider, Venom, X-23, Cloak and Dagger, Jessica Jones, Sentry
Indies: Unnatural, Jeepers Creepers, Project Superpowers, Black Hammer, Ninja-K
There is no evidence to support otherwise either.
In supersons of Tomorrow Conner was hell bent on protecting Jon.
There's no reason why the Superverse can't have Jon [son] and Conner [clone] or why they can't have a good relationship.
They don't necessarily need a title together but I feel that Conner and Jon can co-exist
Last edited by CPSparkles; 05-23-2018 at 03:51 AM.
Dick and Damian worked because they are the opposite of each others and their relationship being developed under the umbrella of Batman and Robin brand definitely helped giving them exposure.
The same can't necessary be said about Jon and Conner. I do think they can co-exist, but that doesn't mean their hypothetical relationship can be successful and DC are missing out the chance.
Last edited by Rise; 05-23-2018 at 04:15 AM.
If things are as simple as that, then every brand of their would have been successful because I'm pretty sure it's what any company wish for.
You mean like how BvS was promoted everywhere and they still didn't get the resultes they wished for?
And what the "right markets" you referring to? I do believe that DC has a problem in promoting their work, but it isn't as simple as if DC wanted x to be successful, it would have been successful.
And you forget to mention superhero girls which is far more successful than Moon Girl. They already trying to create several imprints to suit all ages.
And if you want example from comics, look at TT. DC has been pushing and promoting the brand for years and it still didn't get the results they hoped for which is why it keep relaunching.
What happened to them is the same thing that happens to all the teen heroes these days. A new batch of young kids come in the older one get sent off to limbo. I think the tipping point for the YJ generation was the creation of Damian Wayne. Once he was brought in that pretty much displaced Tim Drake as Robin which sort of set off the dominos when it came to Cassie, Conner, Bart, and the rest. Tim had no real place in the DCU anymore and that trickled down to the rest of them.
Once Damian was around DC decided they needed to create more characters closer to his age for him to have his own peers so we started getting things like the de-aged Raven and Beast Boy and then Kid Flash II and finally Red Arrow (Emiko) and Superboy (Jon). It all goes back to the creation of Damian.
This is the sad trend with teen heroes the last 20 years though. A team is around for a while and builds up a fanbase and then a new writer comes in and wants to create a whole new team. I mean DC was pretty good about this until Damian came along compared to Marvel. Marvel teen heroes have a very short shelf life compared to groups like the TT and YJ. Marvel teen heroes have a shelf life of about 5 years max before they get sent off to limbo for the next round of teens that no one will care about.
Pretty sure that the person wearing green and red running around with Batman in batman comics for the past couple of years isn't called Damian.
Pretty sure Raven and Beast boy were de-aged and put on a team with Tim predates Damian's TT.
It's nothing to do with Damian much like Dick's history been grafted onto Tim and his generation [making them the 1st Titans] had nothing to do with Tim.
Yeah companies have to juggle generations however what happened to Tim's generation was just poor management and happened before Damian, Jon or Red Arrow.