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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    Understanding hate =/= condoning it, and rationalization is weak sauce. I'll take the micro view, over the macro one trying to be applied in its place.
    It's okay everyone see the world in a way and that's why it's hard for people to understand each other even more when genocide and prejudice are involved.

    The scenes with Colossus and Dazzler were the best but the rivalry between Inhumans and Mutants was not good because both sides ignored each other's motives. Instead of having Dazzler lead the two groups to a mutual understanding they preferred to resort to violence to solve the problem which in fact only increases it.

    From the point of view of the one who reads the story without knowing the context all that is seen is a mutant member of minority treating badly another member of another minority. Seeing a mutant acting like a villain can serve as a warning to fans and readers as minority groups often quarrel among them for several reasons and not to turn into the people they despise. However those who know the context behind the terrigenous mist and saw all those scenes of death and suffering is strange to see marvel putting the mutants and their fans in that position since they were the ones who decided to give these reasons to mutants or readers to hate inhumans.

    Marvel decided to put these groups against each other and now that some have buyt the fight will not be so easy to make them forget. Healing wounds takes time and showing mutants like biased people or villains on the wrong side of the argument in a mutant title when they are being killed for months or years does not help at all .

    Anyway it's nice to see Dazzler back in action and look forward to seeing her in Astonishing .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    But its not placing the blame on that on the M-Pox or Terrigen which the Inhuman Royal Family (their chosen representatives to the world) were responsible for.

    Hell it's so vague it could be referring to the Decimation still.
    Nuhumans, Terrigen Mists, & Mutant eXtinction, were all mentioned in the same breath, where Decimation wasn't alluded to at all. Shouldn't have to be eXplicitly stated, goes without sayin', and should be understood. If they didn't know about M-PoX, how would they know about Decimation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    Nuhumans, Terrigen Mists, & Mutant eXtinction, were all mentioned in the same breath, where Decimation wasn't alluded to at all. Shouldn't have to be eXplicitly stated, goes without sayin', and should be understood. If they didn't know about M-PoX, how would they know about Decimation?
    Sure they were probably talking about M-Pox. But they still didn't specifically mention it, they didn't bring up how it was the result of the King of the Inhumans releasing an obscenely large amount of a volatile chemical agent into the ecosystem. Not caring about the consequences and never facing any.

    The Mutants' hatred of Inhumans was treated as if they had no legitimate grievances, the conflict was boiled down to a rivalry out of fear because they're different and mutants were outnumbered.

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    I am digging the art from the first page. Love the variant cover so I had to get that. I cant wait to read this later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJpyro View Post
    Do you mean that the mutants are still sterile or that they are no longer sterile? Cause I haven't heard of any panel saying they cured that.
    I meant that any sort of mass sterility hasn't been shown, and/or addressed, so it's likely yet another dropped subplot. In other words, they don't care about it, and it's been forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    I meant that any sort of mass sterility hasn't been shown, and/or addressed, so it's likely yet another dropped subplot. In other words, they don't care about it, and it's been forgotten.
    But...then why have Storm pretty much sgate in back inn EXM 1 as a major thing? And if it was so bad, why not just make a panel getting rid of it? Heck why not have an inhuman and mutant work out a cure? Leaving it like this just seems so lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knives View Post
    ... Instead of having Dazzler lead the two groups to a mutual understanding they preferred to resort to violence to solve the problem which in fact only increases it. ...
    She did try to reason with them beforehand tho, but they wouldn't listen, and kept resorting to violence. Sometimes people CAN'T be reasoned with, especially in comics. I would've thought this was understood. It escalated, and when push came to shove, they got shoved back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knives View Post
    ... However those who know the context behind the terrigenous mist and saw all those scenes of death and suffering is strange to see marvel putting the mutants and their fans in that position since they were the ones who decided to give these reasons to mutants or readers to hate inhumans. ...
    Maybe that baggage should be checked, and left at the door, then. It's not healthy, hangin' onto hate like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knives View Post
    ... Marvel decided to put these groups against each other and now that some have buyt the fight will not be so easy to make them forget. Healing wounds takes time and showing mutants like biased people or villains on the wrong side of the argument in a mutant title when they are being killed for months or years does not help at all . ...
    So, what, Mutants can never be shown in a negative light now? They can't be shown to be wrong? This is what it's come to, now? Hell, X-fandom's not THAT hypersensitive, are they?

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    This comic was terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJpyro View Post
    ... Leaving it like this just seems so lazy.
    How long ya been readin'? 'Cause it's not nothin' new, been goin' on since forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicknickshady View Post
    This comic was terrible.
    Comin' from an unabashed Gold fan, that'll be taken as a compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroine Addict View Post
    Comin' from an unabashed Gold fan, that'll be taken as a compliment.
    The Inhumans caused all this. And Guggenheim is a way better writer then this lady!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Sure they were probably talking about M-Pox. But they still didn't specifically mention it...
    Nitpicking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    ... The Mutants' hatred of Inhumans was treated as if they had no legitimate grievances, the conflict was boiled down to a rivalry out of fear because they're different and mutants were outnumbered.
    Nah, their grievances were legit & weren't the problem, their eXtremist, radicalized approach was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicknickshady View Post
    The Inhumans caused all this. And Guggenheim is a way better writer then this lady!
    You keep tellin' yourself that.

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    A book where mutants are the aggressors of discrimination instead of a self-defense response. An interesting concept. The art looks good. I'll pick it up this weekend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slicknickshady View Post
    The Inhumans caused all this. And Guggenheim is a way better writer then this lady!
    Praise be to Guggs for he gave us Hammer Time.

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    double post

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