View Poll Results: Decompression or a six-panel grid?

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  • A six-panel grid

    2 22.22%
  • Continued decompression

    1 11.11%
  • Don't know / Unsure

    0 0%
  • Something else (please specify in a post)

    6 66.67%
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  1. #16
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    The number of panels, size of panels, shape of panels, flow of panels, etc. up to and including the size of the gutters between (or lack of gutters in some cases) are all tools a comic creator uses to depict/control the perception of time in the story and to influence the impact of the story on the reader (read some comic theory by Eisner or McCloud to get a fuller idea of it) and should be dictated by the needs of the story being told, not an arbitrary editorial decision to make a "formula" for successful comics. If you are trying to boil it down to a formula, all you will end up with is formulaic comics. I don't want any standard like that imposed on the creators, the story itself should dictate the number of panels, size of panels, etc. Effective variation of size and number of panels controls story flow, builds tension, and combined with effective structuring of page turns can keep the story moving towards its climax, or slow it down and build anticipation for the next reveal or plot twist. You need different size and number of panels depending on whether you want a slow emotional character moment or a booming action sequence. You need a different approach with size and number of panels to depict a chase scene than to depict a heated argument between two individuals than to depict the denouement post-climax than to depict an opening sequence meant to build interest and hook the reader into the story. A noirish story has different needs than a sci-fi epic than a slice of life story that etc. in terms of panels size and number of panels on the page. It's not one-size-fits all and any attempt to make it so demonstrates a lack of understanding of comic storytelling and the effective use of panels and pages.

    If you're reduced to formula to structure and tell your story, you really have nothing worthwhile to say because you don't know how to tell it effectively.

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    Continued decompression isn't getting any support at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey Strain View Post
    Continued decompression isn't getting any support at all.
    Neither is your replacement plan of 6 panels per page
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    A limitation for what a comic can or should be like that is never a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trey Strain View Post
    Continued decompression isn't getting any support at all.
    It's like you willfully ignore the truth.

    At the time of writing, it's:
    A six-panel grid 2 - 25.00%
    Continued decompression 1 - 12.50%
    Don't know / Unsure 0 - 0%
    Something else (please specify in a post) 5 - 62.50%

    What I see there is:
    1 - Only 8 people have voted. Not nearly enough to draw any conclusions.

    2 - Of those 8, 75% do not want to enforce a 6 panel grid.

    3 - Of those 8, 1 person does support "Continued decompression", though what that means is unknown because what you're talking about is not actually decompression.

    4 - 62.5% of the voters found your survey inadequate and chose not to choose between your "six panel grid" idea and what you refer to as "Continued decompression", but isn't actually decompression.

    There's not nearly enough information to know whether people support decompression or not from those results. Personally, I voted "Something else", but I fully support creators using decompression or big panels if that is what works for them. I also support 6 panel grids, 9 panel grids, 16 panel grids, comics made entirely of splash pages, non-decompressed comics, recompressed comics, silent comics and pretty much any other storytelling techniques writers feel like using. (not prose comics though. I draw the line there).

    How can you look at those results and conclude that "Continued decompression isn't getting any support at all"?

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    Just let the team tell the story in the way they want, including how much compression/decompression and page layout they want.

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