Queer Kitty Pryde

[Slicknickshady]

If it was shown on panel I’d be fine with it.

[Wiccan]

If it was shown on panel I’d be fine with it.

[Maestroneto]

If it was shown on panel I’d be fine with it.

Kitty's bachelorette party was at a strip club with both men and women.

[Mia]

Weirdos? You mean fans who are desperate for recognition and are tired of being queer baited? Representation matters so much. 5-7 percent of the population is gay, but there are nowhere near that many gay characters in comics (or movies or tv-shows for that matter). That is why hints that a characters might be gay (or at least bi-curious) gets so much recognition by fans - there are so few other gay characters out there for us to identify with.

So you read and buy comic books for people to identify with? Really? That sounds pretty limited to me.

I read and buy comic books for the inspirational storytelling. And for the characters character. How they comport themselves, rise to challenges and live heroically. It's what has allowed me to enjoy if not learn from characters from a cross section of society. It also gives me the opportunity to read about the kind of person I want to become and work on being.

If I wanted to see or read about someone like myself I don't have to waste money on a comic book. I can get that in real life for free from sitting in the food court of my local mall or riding public transit.

[johnnysv75]

So you read and buy comic books for people to identify with? Really? That sounds pretty limited to me.

I read and buy comic books for the inspirational storytelling. And for the characters character. How they comport themselves, rise to challenges and live heroically. It's what has allowed me to enjoy if not learn from characters from a cross section of society. It also gives me the opportunity to read about the kind of person I want to become and work on being.

If I wanted to see or read about someone like myself I don't have to waste money on a comic book. I can get that in real life for free from sitting in the food court of my local mall or riding public transit.

Of course I don’t only read comics for people to identify with. I never said that.
I want to be inspired as well, and get insights into other people’s lives. I want to escape my mundane life.
But why can’t it be both? That I can both like media that inspires me and gives me insight into other people’s lives. As well as wanting to find characters to identify with.

Almost all characters in comics, movies etc are straight. As a gay man I feel ignored and marginalized. Why can’t I get more gay characters in comics, showing me that writers and artists and editors acknowledge that people like me exist, at the same time as I get bigger than life adventures? It shouldn’t be that hard.

[witchboy]

Of course I don’t only read comics for people to identify with. I never said that.
I want to be inspired as well, and get insights into other people’s lives. I want to escape my mundane life.
But why can’t it be both? That I can both like media that inspires me and gives me insight into other people’s lives. As well as wanting to find characters to identify with.

Almost all characters in comics, movies etc are straight. As a gay man I feel ignored and marginalized. Why can’t I get more gay characters in comics, showing me that writers and artists and editors acknowledge that people like me at the same time as I get bigger than life adventures? It shouldn’t be that hard.

Exactly.
I want action and adventure, but well developed characters make me more invested in the story. Those characters should be diverse to appeal to a diverse market.
It's not just gay fans that want gay characters. Many readers like having a diverse cast. A good example is that I loved that the character of Jericho in the Titans was mute and spoke with sign language. I want to see characters from all walks of life.

[244]

Instead of trying to assume if our favorite character is queer, what about the other characters who are canonically queer? Don’t they get any love? I like Anole and Karma.

[donpricetag]

Instead of trying to assume if our favorite character is queer, what about the other characters who are canonically queer? Don’t they get any love? I like Anole and Karma.

Northstar is one of my favorite character hands down, but he basically got the boot after Astonishing X-Men... I'd love to see him active again.

[TheCape]

Instead of trying to assume if our favorite character is queer, what about the other characters who are canonically queer? Don’t they get any love? I like Anole and Karma.

Well, although i have no stakes in this discussion, i had to say that characters that are confirmed queer don't appear very often, right now i think that the one with higher profile is Iceman, whose solo seems to be quite popular (i thought that the first issue was good, but i didn't continue).

[Slicknickshady]

It’s not Canon. Sorry, Not Sorry!

[Mia]

Of course I don’t only read comics for people to identify with. I never said that.
I want to be inspired as well, and get insights into other people’s lives. I want to escape my mundane life.
But why can’t it be both? That I can both like media that inspires me and gives me insight into other people’s lives. As well as wanting to find characters to identify with.

Almost all characters in comics, movies etc are straight. As a gay man I feel ignored and marginalized. Why can’t I get more gay characters in comics, showing me that writers and artists and editors acknowledge that people like me exist, at the same time as I get bigger than life adventures? It shouldn’t be that hard.

That's good to know. But instead of advocating for more gay characters to be included. Would it not be more effective to have a gay character who is more fleshed out and portrayed in a positive light? And by positive I mean given depth, dignity their own personality.

Exactly.
I want action and adventure, but well developed characters make me more invested in the story. Those characters should be diverse to appeal to a diverse market.
It's not just gay fans that want gay characters. Many readers like having a diverse cast. A good example is that I loved that the character of Jericho in the Titans was mute and spoke with sign language. I want to see characters from all walks of life.

Exactly. It adds more depth and for interesting stories.

[Kurolegacy]

Instead of trying to assume if our favorite character is queer, what about the other characters who are canonically queer? Don’t they get any love? I like Anole and Karma.

The irony certainly isn’t lost on me that it seems a lot of the people who wish to dream of their favorite characters as being queer tend to either never mention the canon queer characters in the same breath or flat out ignore that they even exist while complaining about the level of queer representation.

Kitty's bachelorette party was at a strip club with both men and women.

And? It’s not like Kitty was the one who booked it or even gave any real reaction to female strippers. We weren’t exactly there to bear witness to Kitty getting a lap dance from a woman.

[Muffinman]

I also never read Kitty and ilyana as anything other than a sisterly friendship that rivals any family bond. I would rather a new character that was openly bisexual and proud to fly that flag, or better, bring back Bling! And have her dive into an x-team after a little more time away. I’m excited to see more Northstar which was teased in the x-position.

I would rather give our openly LGBT characters more presence and panel time than trying to push a long established character out of a closet that may or may not be there. Plus, kitty has hogged enough panel time in gold, do we REALLY need her to be pushed any more into the spotlight which her coming out would certainly do

[DDM]

Considering his proclivity for tentacles...

I miss Cal.

Kitty's bachelorette party was at a strip club with both men and women.

Notably an establishment Storm picked out. “X-Men don’t discriminate”.

The irony certainly isn’t lost on me that it seems a lot of the people who wish to dream of their favorite characters as being queer tend to either never mention the canon queer characters in the same breath or flat out ignore that they even exist while complaining about the level of queer representation.

Even funnier, Shan for example wasn’t canonically a lesbian for her first 2 decades in publication. And even then there was less existing subtext for her than there was with supposedly “straight” A-list characters like Ororo or Kitty.

I love Shan too though and always decry when she isn’t used. Like notably at Kitty’s bachelorette party, despite being closer to Kitty than nearly half the ladies present (Jean, Domino, Brand, Betsy, etc). That’s actually the issue, not the fans ignoring these characters but the creators. Get a new strawman.

[Maestroneto]

I also never read Kitty and ilyana as anything other than a sisterly friendship that rivals any family bond. I would rather a new character that was openly bisexual and proud to fly that flag, or better, bring back Bling! And have her dive into an x-team after a little more time away. I’m excited to see more Northstar which was teased in the x-position.

I would rather give our openly LGBT characters more presence and panel time than trying to push a long established character out of a closet that may or may not be there. Plus, kitty has hogged enough panel time in gold, do we REALLY need her to be pushed any more into the spotlight which her coming out would certainly do

Would love to know which spotlight Iceman got inbetween his outing in April 2015 and the launch of his solo in June 2017.