King Batman Run: Analysis and Enjoyment Thread

[lilyrose]

FHIZ got some private scoop apparently. His tone changed pretty quick. Fingers crossed?

Who's he? Does he know actual info?

[Chubistian]

Who's he? Does he know actual info?

He had a pretty good site (Gotham Spoilers) where he made reviews and commented Batman related news. He gets scoops and sometimes DC gives him issues before the release date

[Denirac]

https://www.cbr.com/tom-king-leaving...medium=ios_app
Its Officially Over

[lilyrose]

Oh, this is SUCH bullshit. Less than a week after those promises he made.

Unbelievable. What this really means is we get no ending to Bruce and Selina. After all this.

[Talon1load]

King leaving doesn’t mean there won’t be a resolution to the Batman/Catwoman relationship. It just might have less Bat/Cat crap and be written in a way that makes even a little sense and without Catgod and Batdumbass. This could be the best thing to happen to their relationship since this whole debacle started.

[lilyrose]

King leaving doesn’t mean there won’t be a resolution to the Batman/Catwoman relationship. It just might have less Bat/Cat crap and be written in a way that makes even a little sense and without Catgod and Batdumbass. This could be the best thing to happen to their relationship since this whole debacle started.

He's the only person who's ever focused on it this much. No one else will care, especially if he gets no time to end it the way he wanted, which he won't. He said he was done writing all the Bane stuff, which means the stuff that doesn't get finished is the Catwoman stuff.

No marriage. No ending. Revert to status quo. Bullshit.

[Denirac]

He's the only person who's ever focused on it this much. No one else will care, especially if he gets no time to end it the way he wanted, which he won't. He said he was done writing all the Bane stuff, which means the stuff that doesn't get finished is the Catwoman stuff.

No marriage. No ending. Revert to status quo. Bullshit.

If it reverts Nightwing to Status Quo then its a Small Price to pay for Salvation, The Hardest Choices require the Strongest Wills

[Talon1load]

He's the only person who's ever focused on it this much. No one else will care, especially if he gets no time to end it the way he wanted, which he won't. He said he was done writing all the Bane stuff, which means the stuff that doesn't get finished is the Catwoman stuff.

No marriage. No ending. Revert to status quo. Bullshit.

Dido isn’t a fan of heroes being married. Did you really think they would end up married at the end of this? That ship sailed with issue 50. Trying to do it in another’s year or two is way too little too late. He actually made their relationship pretty unbearable for a lot of people. I used to love the idea of them together but King killed that for me. He has no idea how to write a relationship. He can’t even figure out how two normal people talk to each other or interact. I think you’d have been disappointed if he had stayed for the full run.

[lilyrose]

Dido isn’t a fan of heroes being married. Did you really think they would end up married at the end of this? That ship sailed with issue 50. Trying to do it in another’s year or two is way too little too late. He actually made their relationship pretty unbearable for a lot of people. I used to love the idea of them together but King killed that for me. He has no idea how to write a relationship. He can’t even figure out how two normal people talk to each other or interact. I think you’d have been disappointed if he had stayed for the full run.

Yeah, I did. He kept saying it wasn't over, that the wedding was the halfway point of the Batman/Catwoman love story, that it's all going to have an ending, that it was part of a complete story arc, to be patient, that it was all one story that wasn't over, etc., etc. That their love was what this whole arc was about, aside from Bane.

And then he claimed he was going to do something that changed the character for a generation, so yeah- I thought he'd do it. Now we get nothing, because he's already written all the Bane stuff, so he has no time to even end the Catwoman stuff.

It's a total slap in the face.

Also, despite what happened in 50, he was the only person who could have fixed it if he was planning to have them marry by the end of his 100 issue story anyway. Now, no way does any other writer go near a possible wedding- they probably won't even have the Batman/Catwoman relationship at all, since that was one of the big things about King's run. It'll just be remembered for the failed wedding that pissed people off.

[charliehustle415]

Yowza, this sucks. But for me I take it as a learning opportunity, I think it's best to just trade-wait until your favorite writers run is over to read it; so you don't become overly invested in it. I may end up doing this with Hickman's X-Men and I know a lot may take umbrage with this notion because a lack of sales on floppies means a book can get canceled, but that's not my problem because I buy the trades for my collection.

I did the same for GoT and I am glad to have done it now I can just burn through it over summer break without being disappointed in the ending because I haven't been invested for nearly a decade.

I don't know if the investment is worth it to be honest and I fear when it comes to the big TWO, this will happen more and more because of the skittishness of the higher-ups. The fact that King was able to do what he did for so long is a testament to his skill as a writer and the clout he had with DC, but sooner or later the gig is up.

The silver lining is that we got some amazing art on the book, "Superfriends" one of the most beautiful arcs in the run.

[Talon1load]

Yeah, I did. He kept saying it wasn't over, that the wedding was the halfway point of the Batman/Catwoman love story, that it's all going to have an ending, that it was part of a complete story arc, to be patient, that it was all one story that wasn't over, etc., etc. That their love was what this whole arc was about, aside from Bane.

And then he claimed he was going to do something that changed the character for a generation, so yeah- I thought he'd do it. Now we get nothing, because he's already written all the Bane stuff, so he has no time to even end the Catwoman stuff.

It's a total slap in the face.

Also, despite what happened in 50, he was the only person who could have fixed it if he was planning to have them marry by the end of his 100 issue story anyway. Now, no way does any other writer go near a possible wedding- they probably won't even have the Batman/Catwoman relationship at all, since that was one of the big things about King's run. It'll just be remembered for the failed wedding that pissed people off.

Why do you think he’s the only one who could fix it? Just because he broke it doesn’t mean he’s the only one who could fix it. Any writer could come in and pick up this storyline.

[lilyrose]

Why do you think he’s the only one who could fix it? Just because he broke it doesn’t mean he’s the only one who could fix it. Any writer could come in and pick up this storyline.

Do you really believe that's going to happen? He's the only writer who's EVER focused on their relationship to this extent. That must be for a reason. Others just aren't interested in having them be a couple.

[JasonTodd428]

Do you really believe that's going to happen? He's the only writer who's EVER focused on their relationship to this extent. That must be for a reason. Others just aren't interested in having them be a couple.

I have to agree with you on that lilyrose. DC has been playing this 'will they, won't they;' card with Bat/Cat almost from the moment of Catwoman's creation but I've yet to see any writer seriously try to focus on making their relationship something more serious or permanent outside of King. I don't think most writers or DC for that matter are very interested in that at all.

[lilyrose]

I have to agree with you on that lilyrose. DC has been playing this 'will they, won't they;' card with Bat/Cat almost from the moment of Catwoman's creation but I've yet to see any writer seriously try to focus on making their relationship something more serious or permanent outside of King. I don't think most writers or DC for that matter are very interested in that at all.

Yeah, exactly. So the only hope for any kind of resolution to this relationship would have had to come from King himself. Now that's out the window.

[Chubistian]

Yowza, this sucks. But for me I take it as a learning opportunity, I think it's best to just trade-wait until your favorite writers run is over to read it; so you don't become overly invested in it. I may end up doing this with Hickman's X-Men and I know a lot may take umbrage with this notion because a lack of sales on floppies means a book can get canceled, but that's not my problem because I buy the trades for my collection.

I did the same for GoT and I am glad to have done it now I can just burn through it over summer break without being disappointed in the ending because I haven't been invested for nearly a decade.

I don't know if the investment is worth it to be honest and I fear when it comes to the big TWO, this will happen more and more because of the skittishness of the higher-ups. The fact that King was able to do what he did for so long is a testament to his skill as a writer and the clout he had with DC, but sooner or later the gig is up.

The silver lining is that we got some amazing art on the book, "Superfriends" one of the most beautiful arcs in the run.

I get your reasoning and I actually started collecting the Batman Rebirth Deluxe Edition because it's cheaper and easier to preserve without big damage. In the meantime I read the issues online to keep up to date. But I also get the people that buys single issues, some prefer them and/or like to be to up to date and collects different covers and also some issues have special value as singles instead of being in a trade or hardcover. Also, I suck at watching series, if I'm not seeing it as the episodes are released it can take me years to finish it or I will simply never end it. I have been watching Twin Peaks season 3 since 2017 and that's a series that I could have seen while the episodes were still coming up!