King Batman Run: Analysis and Enjoyment Thread

[Chubistian]

I'm reading through the last bit of Alan Moore's run in Swamp Thing and I just read issue #56, which I hadn't visited again in quite some time, and I noticed that this can be the inspiration or part of the inspiration for the issue of Knightmares with a dream construct of John Constantine. In the issue of Swamp Thing, Swampy ends up stuck in a world with no intelligent life and he creates a fake world copying the life he had on Earth. The construct of his that confronts him about what he is doing is John Constantine. Just like in Knightmares, this false Constantine appears as the voice of reason convincing the protagonist that he is trapped in a lie

[millernumber1]

I'm reading through the last bit of Alan Moore's run in Swamp Thing and I just read issue #56, which I hadn't visited again in quite some time, and I noticed that this can be the inspiration or part of the inspiration for the issue of Knightmares with a dream construct of John Constantine. In the issue of Swamp Thing, Swampy ends up stuck in a world with no intelligent life and he creates a fake world copying the life he had on Earth. The construct of his that confronts him about what he is doing is John Constantine. Just like in Knightmares, this false Constantine appears as the voice of reason convincing the protagonist that he is trapped in a lie

Nice find! I know King thinks Alan Moore is pretty great, and we know that he also loves Swamp Thing, so odds are good that he is aware of this and making use of the concepts.

[charliehustle415]

Nice find! I know King thinks Alan Moore is pretty great, and we know that he also loves Swamp Thing, so odds are good that he is aware of this and making use of the concepts.

I'm still trying to understand Damian as Pyg though.

My reading of the situation is that Father and Son could be happy similar to Pygmalion and his beautiful statue. However, unlike Pygmalion who found happiness with a lifeless statue Bruce will not allow himself to be happy with a flesh and blood son that adores him. I think that's why King had such vivid description of blood, guts, and sinew within the issue.

[millernumber1]

I'm still trying to understand Damian as Pyg though.

My reading of the situation is that Father and Son could be happy similar to Pygmalion and his beautiful statue. However, unlike Pygmalion who found happiness with a lifeless statue Bruce will not allow himself to be happy with a flesh and blood son that adores him. I think that's why King had such vivid description of blood, guts, and sinew within the issue.

That's a good note! I love the story of Pygmalion, and I think the idea I took from 61 (other than the unusually emotional Frank Miller variant cover) was the idea that Batman feels like his family is his creation, his "fault," and that's why he can't be happy with them. He wishes they could live free of his vow.

[charliehustle415]

That's a good note! I love the story of Pygmalion, and I think the idea I took from 61 (other than the unusually emotional Frank Miller variant cover) was the idea that Batman feels like his family is his creation, his "fault," and that's why he can't be happy with them. He wishes they could live free of his vow.

Ohh, that's good; that's right the vow plays such a big role. How can he honor his vow to Selina if he is beholden to THE VOW?

[Phoenyxx1481]

The answers are finally coming! https://screenrant.com/flashpoint-ba...ained-preview/

[bat1987]

I'd be really pissed if this doesn't end with bruce beating the living crap out of his father.

[bob.schoonover]

Hmm. Thawne doing it as revenge is a nice poetic twist - one wonders if that was always the intention when they were planning out The Button and tying into Doomsday Clock. The art is beautiful, and I'm a sucker for backwards-told stories.

[batnbreakfast]

Hmm. Thawne doing it as revenge is a nice poetic twist - one wonders if that was always the intention when they were planning out The Button and tying into Doomsday Clock. The art is beautiful, and I'm a sucker for backwards-told stories.

Would reading doomsday clock make reading Batman better

[Denirac]

This Whole thing is retroactively trying to make this make sense: Also Thawne goes "Flash" as he runs off? *Really*, Just 1 More Issue after this Thank God.

[charliehustle415]

Would reading doomsday clock make reading Batman better

Nope, all you have to read is The Button.


On the preview; I CANNOT wait! Yes finally this is all I wanted some explanation and the art is gorgeous

[millernumber1]

Nope, all you have to read is The Button.


On the preview; I CANNOT wait! Yes finally this is all I wanted some explanation and the art is gorgeous

Fornes is amazing. Very glad he's getting to do some more Batman!

[Inversed]

Surprise Fornes appearance is MMMMMMMMMMMM good stuff. I know you want Mann to do everything in Bat/Cat to make it more consistent...buuuuuut if you threw in a Fornes appearance here and there I wouldn't mind at all

[millernumber1]

Surprise Fornes appearance is MMMMMMMMMMMM good stuff. I know you want Mann to do everything in Bat/Cat to make it more consistent...buuuuuut if you threw in a Fornes appearance here and there I wouldn't mind at all

Neither would I! Or a Lee Weeks special issue...

[Scott Taylor]

Looks amazing. Can't believe I never considered Thawne. What a dick that guy is!