King Batman Run: Analysis and Enjoyment Thread

[Miles To Go]

Someone predicted earlier on that Selina would show up as one of Bane's minions. I would say that's a good prediction, except for the fact that she's already fooled him like twice in this series, so he'd be really stupid to believe that again.

If that were the case, then Bendis already spoiled Selina would be a baddie again in his 'Tec 1000 story.

[Arsenal]

I might be mistaken, but doesn't the solicits suggest that Bruce will still be away when the City of Bane arc kicks off. Maybe after confronting his father and learning whatever he does from it, Bruce could decide to find her first before making his return. With the reasoning behind it being that Bane is clearly stuck in Bruce's head and he needs to clear it if he wants any hope of beating Bane.

Or perhaps she'll find him.

[theoneandonly]

Catwoman can stay away from Bruce forever during this run as long as she doesn't go meeooow and as long as the bat/cat thing doesn't resurface. King would probably have her repeating I am going to scratch your back bane dialogue ad infinitum for no apparent reason.

[Inversed]

I've seen some people interpret the events of the issue as Batman still hallucinating, so one or the other halves may not have actually happened, but I think that they both did actually happen, but Bane's just messing with Batman to make him not trust himself or any of his actions. It's instead everyone else he's manipulating through some means (probably Psycho Pirate in some way though I hope not completely because that could feel too cheap). Now that he's all alone, time to see how him and Thomas end up out in the desert.

I know King has mentioned that something regarding Selina occurs in 75, so she may appear but not have a big role yet. And just like Bane getting his visit by Lex, Selina's also getting one in her Catwoman issue that same month, so we'll have to see where that goes. I don't feel know if they're going to go with Selina joining up with Bane again, just because as the readers, we obviously gonna know she's faking, and it'll make this "smartest Bane ever" look so dumb to trust the woman who outsmarted him TWICE already.

If that were the case, then Bendis already spoiled Selina would be a baddie again in his 'Tec 1000 story.

Bendis' story isn't canon though. King's story, however, almost certainly is, so I think he already spoiled part of his conclusion himself.

[Chubistian]

Cover for Batman #76



Oh, and Tom King said on twitter this wasn't another Knightmares sequence. I too don't think the problem is with Batman (except for the "I punch my friends" department), but with others being manipulated

[lilyrose]

Bendis' story isn't canon though. King's story, however, almost certainly is, so I think he already spoiled part of his conclusion himself.

How so? What part did he spoil himself?

[millernumber1]

How so? What part did he spoil himself?

I mean, he keeps joking that issue 105 is gonna be Batman and Kite Man in a bar, drinking together.

[Hilden B. Lade]

I've seen some people interpret the events of the issue as Batman still hallucinating, so one or the other halves may not have actually happened, but I think that they both did actually happen, but Bane's just messing with Batman to make him not trust himself or any of his actions. It's instead everyone else he's manipulating through some means (probably Psycho Pirate in some way though I hope not completely because that could feel too cheap). Now that he's all alone, time to see how him and Thomas end up out in the desert.

I know King has mentioned that something regarding Selina occurs in 75, so she may appear but not have a big role yet. And just like Bane getting his visit by Lex, Selina's also getting one in her Catwoman issue that same month, so we'll have to see where that goes. I don't feel know if they're going to go with Selina joining up with Bane again, just because as the readers, we obviously gonna know she's faking, and it'll make this "smartest Bane ever" look so dumb to trust the woman who outsmarted him TWICE already.



Bendis' story isn't canon though. King's story, however, almost certainly is, so I think he already spoiled part of his conclusion himself.

https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status...82525248221186

King has confirmed in response to a fan question that whatever's happening in 71, it's definitely not another nightmare hallucination.

[millernumber1]

https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status...82525248221186

King has confirmed in response to a fan question that whatever's happening in 71, it's definitely not another nightmare hallucination.

That's good to know, but it does make me feel like Bane is using some kind of reality manipulation to persuade Batman's allies to gaslight him. What has Alfred been doing for the weeks Batman has been under? Why doesn't anyone know Bane is actually up and about, sitting on thrones of skulls? Why doesn't Alfred remember saying "Your father"...?

[Inversed]

How so? What part did he spoil himself?

King's story from Detective Comics #1000 is Batman taking a picture with the entire Batfamily and then leaving said picture at his parents' grave. Given a lot of the themes Kings' run has been dealing with, regarding his vow to his parents and how that makes him push others away, and now with this issue itself involving half of the Batfamily assembling, I think it seems very likely this story occurs near the end of his run. Plus he's teased its canon-ness already.

https://twitter.com/TomKingTK/status...82525248221186

King has confirmed in response to a fan question that whatever's happening in 71, it's definitely not another nightmare hallucination.

Just like I thought, I do think there is an intention to make the events seem more surreal, though just to emphasize Batman's growing insanity, rather than all just being in his head.

That's good to know, but it does make me feel like Bane is using some kind of reality manipulation to persuade Batman's allies to gaslight him. What has Alfred been doing for the weeks Batman has been under? Why doesn't anyone know Bane is actually up and about, sitting on thrones of skulls? Why doesn't Alfred remember saying "Your father"...?

I have a feeling the answer will end up being "Psycho Pirate", just because he showed up front and centre in the Year Of The Villain teaser, and they've mentioned him a bunch in interviews, though I do hope there is more to it than just him.

[Pohzee]

Given that Dick is not Ric and Tim is still Robin (he won't be soon,) I assume that Tec 1000 is pre-wedding.

[Inversed]

Given that Dick is not Ric and Tim is still Robin (he won't be soon,) I assume that Tec 1000 is pre-wedding.

Catwoman and Batgirl are in their current costumes, we know Dick is gonna be back to normal eventually, same with Jason, and we don't know the extent of Tim's changes yet, so that's why it seems more likely its post rather than pre. Also considering if it was pre-wedding, why would he be coy about its place in the timeline?

[lilyrose]

If Selina comes back and if they do get them married by the end, isn't her own book going to have to address that? Can her own series go on if they're married?

Maybe I'm fooling myself thinking that's what the change is going to be. I just figure it had to be Catwoman-related, given all his hinting.

[millernumber1]

If Selina comes back and if they do get them married by the end, isn't her own book going to have to address that? Can her own series go on if they're married?

I don't see why not. But we'll have to see how sales are doing at that point. Maybe a marriage would give it a bump.

[Arsenal]

If Selina comes back and if they do get them married by the end, isn't her own book going to have to address that? Can her own series go on if they're married?

Maybe I'm fooling myself thinking that's what the change is going to be. I just figure it had to be Catwoman-related, given all his hinting.

I don’t see why not. Might need some tiny adjustments but for the most part the book would work just fine is.