The Three Jokers By Geoff Johns and Jason Fabok

[John Venus]

Because passing Babs around between the major Bat-males gets tiresome. Bruce in Beyond, Tim in the Arkham games...if they ever age up Damian, he will be next.

How many love interests has Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake have gotten in a single continuity? Babs is hardly getting passed around when some of these examples are from different continuities and she was a willing partner in all of them.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

How many love interests has Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake have gotten in a single continuity? Babs is hardly getting passed around when some of these examples are from different continuities and she was a willing partner in all of them.

See, this argument falls flat because we're talking of a fictional character and thus, she's only doing what writers want and at this point is clear that they don't have better ideas than pairing her with the Wayne.

[Rac7d*]

How many love interests has Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake have gotten in a single continuity? Babs is hardly getting passed around when some of these examples are from different continuities and she was a willing partner in all of them.

Babs can have as many boyfriends as she want but those boys should nOT be brothers or fathers

[SiegePerilous02]

How many love interests has Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake have gotten in a single continuity? Babs is hardly getting passed around when some of these examples are from different continuities and she was a willing partner in all of them.

She's a fictional character and pretty much the default Token Girl of the Bat-Family because DC has a difficult time consistently paying attention to any of the rest. By paring her off with any of the Robins and even Bruce, it just comes across as if they don't know what other relationship dynamics the girl can bring to the table.

She can have as many relationship partners as she wants, but she was originally created to not be a love interest for either Bruce or Dick and be truly independent. Going from that in the 60s to "dated all the major Bat men" across many continuities is pretty ridiculous. It's not like DC would ever seriously consider pulling the trigger on Babs/Dinah either and any other relationships (Jason Bard, Ted Kord) have fallen by the wayside.

[Robanker]

Babs can have as many boyfriends as she want but those boys should nOT be brothers or fathers

That's where the problem is. I don't care if she has had that many love interests, but they're all members of her surrogate family extended or otherwise. It's a really bad look.

[Godlike13]

Ya, let’s not confuse the issue between love interest within the same circle vs love interest in general.

[Nite-Wing]

Lmao she’s been with every single Batmale except Damian.
Grayson and Fox in the mainline
Drake in Arkham
Todd here
Wayne in the DCAU
All we need now is for someone to reveal her and Damian getting together is what kicked off the 666 timeline for Babs to have the whole set.

If we want to judge fictional characters across all continuities then Dick has far out paced Barbara and actually slept with just about all of her friends
Which should be even worse by that logic
Why do people care if Babs is interested in people besides Dick again?

[Konja7]

If we want to judge fictional characters across all continuities then Dick has far out paced Barbara and actually slept with just about all of her friends
Which should be even worse by that logic
Why do people care if Babs is interested in people besides Dick again?

I really want to believe Dick isn't the main reason why this is a problem in this forum (although there are definitely other places where sexism is the main problem).

It is understable that people find iritating that Barbara is used as the love interest of the Batfamily

[Rakiduam]

If we want to judge fictional characters across all continuities then Dick has far out paced Barbara and actually slept with just about all of her friends
Which should be even worse by that logic
Why do people care if Babs is interested in people besides Dick again?

When did Dick slept with just about all of Barbara's friends?

People keep missing the point, Barbara can be interseted in whoever she wants, but the way DC is going about it, she is treated like the girfriend on motorcycle gang. If anything only shows how limitated the character's world is.

Personally I hate Dick and Barbara paring, she would aways be the girl that dumped him for his father, I would be happy if this never ever after relationship with her became Jason's problem, but DC really should choose one and stik with it.

[Robanker]

When did Dick slept with just about all of Barbara's friends?

People keep missing the point, Barbara can be interseted in whoever she wants, but the way DC is going about it, she is treated like the girfriend on motorcycle gang. If anything only shows how limitated the character's world is.

Pretty much this. It's more that she only seems to sleep with people in her surrogate family, which is kind of weird. For all of Grayson's many faults, he does get around just in general.

I don't much care if Barbara sleeps around, but really? Must she be with every Robin? And Batman? And Batwing? Remember back when she and Ted Kord were flirting? That was fun. Give her civilians or people outside her direct circle and surrogate family. Nobody cares about the volume of relationships, just how targeted it is and specifically the people in question.

Also, which of Barbara's friends has Dick slept with other than Huntress? Dinah, Zinda, and pretty much every other Bird of Prey is off that list as far as I'm aware.

[Nite-Wing]

I just think its dumb to assert a sexist trope onto a fictional female character that isn't in control of her actions. If you don't like it that's fine but to begin to go into the territory of calling her the only female in a...
all male biker gang is a bit much


Besides that the whole faux bro code incestuous dynamic that some people are trying to broach is also ridiculous
Babs has her own family a father, a mother, and her own brother
At best you could describe Bruce, Dick, Jason, Tim and co as her "friends" because she only met them at best when she started college. They aren't her surrogate family and the creepy dynamic that you all are using to shame any romance she has with anyone besides Dick
by that same token wouldn't that make Dick, Jason, and co just as creepy right?

[Konja7]

I just think its dumb to assert a sexist trope onto a fictional female character that isn't in control of her actions. If you don't like it that's fine but to begin to go into the territory of calling her the only female in a...
all male biker gang is a bit much


Besides that the whole faux bro code incestuous dynamic that some people are trying to broach is also ridiculous
Babs has her own family a father, a mother, and her own brother
At best you could describe Bruce, Dick, Jason, Tim and co as her "friends" because she only met them at best when she started college. They aren't her surrogate family and the creepy dynamic that you all are using to shame any romance she has with anyone besides Dick
by that same token wouldn't that make Dick, Jason, and co just as creepy right?

In current continuity, I think Barbara was Batgirl and meet Dick and Bruce when she was in High School. Also, she considers them as family.

That said, Jason and Dick are hardly brothers. So, people saying Barbara is in the middle of two brothers is pretty exagerated.

I don't like how people focus so much on that bro code thing either, especially as the criticism falls on Barbara (for some reason).

[Rakiduam]

by that same token wouldn't that make Dick, Jason, and co just as creepy right?

Yes, it does.

The criticism is not on Barbara it is on the edditorial.

[Konja7]

Yes, it does.

The criticism is not on Barbara it is on the edditorial.

To be fair, editorial only has control over the situation of Barbara with Dick and Jason.

They don't have control about the Tim thing in Arkham Games or the Bruce thing in The Killing Joke movie.

So, I wouldn't say editorial is passing Barbara between the male members of the Batfamily.

[Rakiduam]

To be fair, editorial only has control over the situation of Barbara with Dick and Jason.

They don't have control about the Tim thing in Arkham Games or the Bruce thing in The Killing Joke movie.

So, I wouldn't say editorial is passing Barbara between the male members of the Batfamily.

It's not like they aren't aware it exist. You really have to wonder how is that the only dynamic they can write for her has to be romantic in some way, or if Cass and Sthepanie are not paid too much attention because they are too young to be paired with the male members of the familly.