But, far as I'm aware, none of the Punisher films are connected, to any of the Punisher films. Stuff like that could change in the future.
Whether it be in a Netflix series, or Marvel Studios film.
But, as a follow up, sure, but not as the title says, a sequel.
What let you down about it anyway?
That really doesn't jive with my experience with rotten tomatoes, Netflix or IMDB scores. Many viewer scores are brutal. And again, viewer opinion and critic opinion are congruent for this film. Pretty much everywhere you go online that keeps scores, TDKR does very well. It made tons of money. It's scores are consistently higher than most other Superhero films.
Comic book fans are much more critical than average audiences. We are more invested and usually better educated generally and on superheroes and films specifically. I get that and I like that. As I've said, we are the first 100 million comic book movies make. If we don't show up, the film is sunk.
But we aren't representative of audiences. We concern ourselves with minutia and plot points etc that the vast majority of the audience don't care about.
Everywhere I turn concrete statistical evidence shows audiences and critics really like TDKR. It isn't just Rotten Tomatoes. Should I disregard the best data available for anecdotal evidence from message boards?
Last edited by Jorge; 07-22-2014 at 10:04 AM.
I completely agree that every individual is entitled to their opinion. And to not be part of the consensus. Often times the critic on the outside is the one who brings the most meaning to the discussion.
My point is more about the need to drags down the success of a work if one doesn't like it. Too often it isn't enough to say, "I didn't like it." Folks have to say, "Everyone hated it."
Oh, I don't disagree that in was generally well received.
For me, it fits in the same category as the Transformers movies. Movies I can't see the appeal in and I see a lot of criticism for but people still want to see it and they do very well. Does that mean they're good? Dark of the Moon gets terrible reviews on RT but it made tons of money. So how accurate is RT in determining whether or not people like a movie?
I think there are different measures for whether or not something is good or disappointing but in the case of the OPs list, I don't disagree at all the DKR was a disappointment coming off of TDK.
I enjoyed Thor 2. It upped the ante from the first film in the battles. The story was really little more than a chance to showcase Loki playing off Thor and everyone. It was entertaining but I've never read the comics.
Surprised to see TDKR on here. It made some interesting choices, not all of them worked. It still treated Batman as a near-mythic symbol and one of hope. A lot of its themes were heavy handed, but that's how the whole franchise was.
Iron Man II--well, its inclusion here is probably spot on. I thought it was a very bloated sequel, lots of bits that could've been cut. The scene at the race track was utterly fantastic though, one of the best action scenes in all the Marvel movies.
Superman Return - I enjoyed and was respectful to the Superman lore compared to Man of Crap movie.
Blade 3 - Snipes did his best, but Goyer is just an hack and should never work alone.
X3- Brett Ratner sucks, the end
AMS2 - Decent, some slow parts but some crazy action and effects in others, saved by the really emotional ending, oh just edit out the spidey kid out of the Rhino scene at the end the move
TDKR - Almost a great movie, too much Blake(overhyped), too little Alfred at the end. He would never leave Bruce side.
Thor 2 - Almost good for most of the movie except at the end due to a bad end battle which was ruined with Jane, scientist, her friend, kissing, teleport garbage. Killed the movie. Don't mess with the last fight. The villain was good enough.
FF2 - First one sucked, why do a sequel, maybe a bunch of Obama supporters did this one.
Spidey 3 - Decent, a bit too much. but decent
Iron man 2 - Loved it, Loved Vanko, Loved Hammer, some ways cooler than the first but not as superior. Also Loved Iron man 3, deal with it.
Kick ass 2 - loved the first one, didn't see the second yet but heard it bad. Still want to see it.
Ghost Rider 2 - Coolest Bad Movie Ever!
Completely agree. X3 is an awful movie.