Batman vs Joker: Who is winning?

[Jabare]

These two have faced off countless times over the decades.



What's the score? Who is winning who is losing?

Batman the Dark Knight vs The Clown Prince of Crime


Order vs Chaos.


Does Batman edge out Joker or has Joker racked up enough chaos, death & destruction overtime to one up his nemesis?

[Vakanai]

Neither, they will be fighting for as long as our culture tells stories.

[dancj]

The Joker is clearly winning. He's quite happy with the status quo where he escapes, kills a bunch of people and gets caught ad infinitum.

[Jabare]

Neither, they will be fighting for as long as our culture tells stories.

so they are yin and yang? one can't exist without the other?

The Joker is clearly winning. He's quite happy with the status quo where he escapes, kills a bunch of people and gets caught ad infinitum.

Do you think this will ever change? Should it change? If you think DC should change things or mix it up how do you think they should go about doing it.

[adrikito]

Neither(justice or chaos, both are temporal). But.. The Joker wins because he continues killing people.

But according the Joker here, Batman always win:

[Frontier]

I mean, it depends on whatever criteria you use to justify a "win."

Batman always stops The Joker, but nowadays he usually can't stop him before a bunch of people end up dead and Joker eventually breaks out of Arkham to do the whole song-and-dance again.

But usually, or at least sometimes, Batman manages to stop Joker in such a way that shuts up whatever anarchistic or deranged mantra he's spouting at the time.

[Vakanai]

so they are yin and yang? one can't exist without the other?

No, but you can't have a hero without a challenge to overcome, like a villain.

Do you think this will ever change? Should it change? If you think DC should change things or mix it up how do you think they should go about doing it.

DC will never change it, Joker makes too much money, but Batman has many rogues, and future writers will invent more, some will stick and some won't.

[Aioros22]

The readers keep losing.